Life of Silencers?
It's mostly only a dream at this point in my life, but I've been checking out rifle silencers here for some time and always wanted to know how long they last?
Especially something like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=8644316
Is this something you can keep for years and years and pass down, or do you throw them away after X amount of rounds?
As usual, thanks all!
Fitz
Especially something like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=8644316
Is this something you can keep for years and years and pass down, or do you throw them away after X amount of rounds?
As usual, thanks all!
Fitz
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Fitz;
While any silencer/supressor has a shelf life,
that life is dictated by construction and material therein.
One made of stainless steel would/should have long life.
I question the statement of it working on all bullets .30 cal
and down. Silencers tend to be caliber specific, At least as I understand the physics involved. In order to divert the propelent gases into the baffeling and blast chamber there must be a desent seal between the bullet and silencer bore. In any event,Silencers of good construction should have a fairly long service life. Passing it down may be another questin altogether.0 -
What a waste of a good Mag Lite (That silencer body is a mag lite flashlight) 0 -
I have fired a silenced 9mm SMG using subsonic ammo. The loudest sound was that of the action working. You are entering a totally world when you try to silence high velocity (super sonic) rounds. The sonic boom made by the bullet is loud. Anyone who has been shot at or worked in the pits where hipower rifle bullets travel overhead can vouch for the noise of the sonic boom. You will encounter three problems in using a silencer. 1) Bulk 2) Limited effectiveness with most calibers 3) Legality (They must be registered with BATFE) 0 -
Suppressors can last a lifetime, its the insides that need maintenance. There are sealed units, and units that are designed to be disassembled. The absence of baffles leads me to assume this is a sealed unit.
It is certainly possible to design a suppressor usable on multiple calibers, however, the effectiveness of the suppressor is going to vary significantly from caliber to caliber. Also, the effectiveness is going to vary significantly from chambering to chambering in the same caliber. Not so much from .30/06 to .308, but certainly from .308 to .300 Mag.
So, if someone buys this particular suppressor and attaches to an M16, he will enjoy a certain level of sound reduction... but not nearly what a suppressor properly designed for that caliber/rifle would provide.
FFL Dealer, Class 07/02 Mfg0 -
All that and you can't silence any round that isn't subsonic. You can suppress it but that's all. My guess is that this auction is over because the ATF collected this guy and he's in jail. It's clearly a home made 'can' and your ATF takes a dim view of people making them. 0 -
Once again... thanks all!
Fitz0 -
Sunray,
How did you determine that it is "home made"???? It looks legit to me. Also, the guy has a bunch of auctions still up.
Merc
NO! You may not have my guns! Now go crawl back into your hole!
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"Tolerating things you may not necessarily like is part of being free" - Larry Flynt0 -
Doesn't look much like a MagLite flashlight to me.
Looks like a steel tube - if it was for .30Cal cartridges, I wouldn't make it of a MagLite and it's lightweight aircraft aluminum.
I've seen steel silencers expand because of the pressure in the first chamber.
Compare it with a silencer that WAS made of a MagLite...
http://www.happynanoq.dk/silencer/
Finally a MagLite 3D-cell FlashLight that have come to a GOOD use.
Yes, it is true that silencers DOES work on ordinary ammo, but I do suspect that the guy was just thrilled of the experience. TOO thrilled.
Because firing a weapon on full-auto with a silencer, will decrease the silencers efficiency - and gradually make more and more noise because of the pressure build-up inside the silencer.
The pressure being built-up in the silencer is offcourse the gasses being blocked from excaping the muzzle too fast and give the great big noise.
They would most likely experience way more gas that comes out backwards, through the chamber.
Shooting semi/full-autos with silencers WILL make a mess in the weapon - because more and more residue will settle in the breech-bolt area. Cleaning of such weapons is a must - at a more often interval than without silencer.
I have shot .22LR and up to .30-06 calibers with silencers now.
Even a .308Win will sound something like standard velocity to a fast .22LR. - not a .22Short (unless the .22Short is on steroids).
A silenced shot of a .22LR CCI Stinger, will sound like a normal .22LR CCI Standard.
A .222Rem/.223Rem will sound something in between a .22LR Standard and High-velocity cartridge.
So will .243Win - 6.5*55 - .308Win - .30-06.
Those are the calibers that I have tried to silence for use here in Greenland. All tested by me and/or a friend - all sounding like a .22LR Standard-Velocity or a .22LR High-Velocity would sound without a silencer.
Yes, it is probably possible to make it sound THAT quiet, like the guy makes it seem.
But he didn't stand to the right of the shooter, experiencing the blast of gasses backwards through the gun or the rattle of the breech-bolt.
At that short distance, it's easy to mistake the "WHOMP" s?und that comes out backwards of the gun - as a part of the different sound of the muzzle-crack that it normally could give off.
Yes, it is fun to see a .30cal rifle, hitting hard on a target - with the sound of a .22LR.
I just doubt that it will stay that silent on full-auto - in .30cal rifles - it may possibly stay silent on smaller rifles, like .222Rem or such.
A supressor - to work at it's best - needs to be made at tight tollerances, to block the gasses from escaping too fast.
A silencer for a .30-06 - can be used on a .222Rem rifle (if the threads are right), but the bigger holes allow for more gasses to excape faster, and thereby leaving a slightly louder sound.
Louder than a silencer designed for a .222Rem would
If silencers are made of blued steel, calculated correctly and in good quality - all you ever need to worry about, is changing the baffelplates from the inside of the silencer.
Those can get deformed over time, if it's made with baffelplates that is!!
There are numerous variations of silencers - some for a few shots, and some designed for heavy usage on ranges for practise.
A silencer like the one I made, was made to shoot a brick of .22LR of any kind - be dissasembled and cleaned, and go for another brick and so on.
It is all in the combination of materials and the strength thereoff.
I've used a Maglite, stainless steel, brass, a special rubber O-ring that can cope with the dirt and temperatures - and finally Delrin, which is a sort of nylon, but can take higher temperatures.
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0
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