Legal shipping advice?
Is it legal for a non FFL hokder to ship a modern firearm [Rem.700] to a legal FFL holder and what carrier still accepts firearm shipments? The rifle was given to me and no paperwork was processed, if that makes a difference. nb
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You can ship the Remington Rifle to the FFL holder ( 0 1) in another state, as long as you have a copy of his current FFL signed in ink.
Best way to ship long guns is by the U S P S. (Priority Mail). long guns only, you as a non FFL can't ship handguns by the U S P S.0 -
Thanks Rufe. Now I have to fix a price on it and post it.Appreciate your lightning fast response. nb 0 -
Here's the insight from the Gun Broker Web Sight it might answer some of your questions.
http://www.gunbroker.com/user/ShippingGuide.asp0 -
As a side note, there is no legal requirement to obtain the FFL copy, whether signed in ink or otherwise. The law only requires that the recipient be licensed.
Licensees normally request copies from each other for recordkeeping purposes, but a license copy is still not actually required by law. It has merely become the most convenient way of the shipper being sure the recipient is licensed.
Here's an example. Say you need to ship your Remington 11/87 back to the factory for repair. You aren't going to get a copy of Remington's manufacturer's license, signed in ink. Yet you send it of anyway, because you know Remington Arms Company has an FFL.
Having the license copy is a good idea, though, if the carrier's counter people require clarification before accepting the shipment. The counter dunces around here occasionally require quite a bit of clarification...
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you should also verify the FFL license by going to gunbrokers "Verify FFL License page " which is the link below , just type in the license numbers where asked and it will tell you if the license is still good , then print and keep the page for your records
http://www.gunbroker.com/user/VerifyLicenseForm.asp0 -
I have found USPS to be too expensive to ship long guns, so I use UPS whenever possible. (Avoid FEDEX, as they now require ALL firearms be shipped by Next Day Air, which is extremely expensive.)
You also need to be aware that a few states prohibit FFL's from receiving some/all firearms from non-licensees in another state.
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Don't mean to disagree with nmyers, "BUT" I have had big time problems in the past with UPS over shipping a rifle. I brought a bolt action mauser down to their office in a sealed box and sent it off.
Next day one of their customer service representatives brought the box (which had been opened) back to my home and told me they weren't going to ship it!
Needless to say I went down to the PO and sent it off without any trouble or BS.
The above problem is just one of many, I've had with the A H's at UPS.0 -
quote:Licensees normally request copies from each other for recordkeeping purposes, but a license copy is still not actually required by law. It has merely become the most convenient way of the shipper being sure the recipient is licensed.
In the case of a transfer between licensees, the shipping licensee is required by law to have a certified copy of the receiving licensee's FFL. See 27CFR 178.94.
quote:You also need to be aware that a few states prohibit FFL's from receiving some/all firearms from non-licensees in another state.
There are very few, if any, that prohibit the practice. There may be some that try and pressure dealers to not receive from nonlicensees even though it is not prohibited by State law. New York comes to mind as an example.0 -
I understand some states require shipment only from FFL's to FFLs. Tried to ship a gun to an FFL in Cal.(from FL) and the dealer said state law required it be shipped from a dealer as well. A similar incident in NJ. Is this the case and how many of these states are there?? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by brayhaven
I understand some states require shipment only from FFL's to FFLs. Tried to ship a gun to an FFL in Cal.(from FL) and the dealer said state law required it be shipped from a dealer as well. A similar incident in NJ. Is this the case and how many of these states are there??
Like I said above, there are few, if any. In most cases, the dealer is either ignorant or BS'ing. For example, there is no law in California requiring FFL to FFL shipment with the exception of "assault weapon" shipments being shipped for or returned from repair.0
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