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  • keymaker96
    i have a revoler smith and wesson on the barrell it is stamped <smith & wesson springfield mass usa pat'd may 11,1880,jan.8.1882.april 9 1889> and model # is 368880 gun is ruff found it after a relative dyed and not sure what i have got the hole barrel flips down to reload and it also has a shell ejector i think it is a 38 anyone know what i got ??
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  • pickenup
    There was a company called "Rocky Mountain Arms Corp" I do not know much about them, or if they made any black powder rifles. They went out of buisness a while back.

    The gene pool needs chlorine.
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  • He Dog
    I had not heard of it, so I got the Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Values out. It does not list R.M.A.C or Rocky Mountain Arms Co. I have one or two more sources I can check. From the name, my guess is that they did not manufacture, but sold import rifles, though I have seldom seen a BP .22. More if I find anything.

    My heros have always killed cowboys.
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  • He Dog
    I located a Rocky Mountain Firearms Co. in Utah in an 11 year old source, but that does not seem to fit the initials. Otherwise I can find nothing that would help. I also cannot find any BP rifle less than .32 caliber (small caliber BP arms foul quickly!) Is this a muzzle loader or a BP cartridge rifle? Could it be .32 cal?

    My heros have always killed cowboys.
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  • andy12390
    all i know is that back in the 1800's people used to shoot black powder 22's in there basement. they were pretty much toys to the people back then but now they could worth a fortune.

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  • Iroquois Scout
    Andy,
    I think that what you are referring to are the Flobert System rifles and pistols which were used in Europe for indoor shooting games. The cartridges consist of a primed rimfire case and a round ball pressed into the case mouth. These guns can be found in calibers from 4MM to 22BB cap. While these breech loading guns have some collector value, they are hardly worth a fortune.
    In over 40 years of collecting muzzle loading rifles I have never seen a .22 caliber muzzle loader. As someone else said, about the smallest caliber is .32. There are several reasons for this, one of which is that the .22 caliber round ball is not really effective for anything, the .22 caliber round ball would be very hard to handle when you tried to load because of it's small size, also the small bore would foul very badly and quickly. The .32's were popular small game rifles because the .315 or .310 round balls that they used were standard buck shot sizes and so easy to come by, however, they also foul quickly and need to be wiped every third or fourth shot.
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  • keymaker96
    I dont know how to explain anything about this gun other than about the last 2 inches of the barrell and in front of the hammer will rotate a 1/4 turn u put the powder in then the 22 cal ball and tamp it in. On the other side is a little steel cap you pull off and put inside a little red cap like the ones you used to play with when you was a kid and that is what detonates it.
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  • Iroquois Scout
    Can you post a picture? Sounds like some kind of breech loader or maybe a toy.
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  • pickenup
    Could this be what is referred to as a "Parlor rifle/gun?"


    The gene pool needs chlorine.
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  • Iroquois Scout
    I really don't think that this is what you would call a Parlor Rifle as that usually means the Flobert System. This sounds more like the Allen screw barrel guns, execpt that the barrel only makes a 1/4 turn to load. I would really like to see a picture, as that would probably settle it one way or the other.
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    AS AN ASIDE, I USED TO OWN A .22 MUZZEL LOADER. THIS WAS A FAIRLY MODERN RIFLE AS IT USED A STEVENS BARREL. IT WAS A WELL MADE RIFLE AND SHOT WELL BUT HAD TO BE CLEAN EVERY 2/3 SHOTS.
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