mini-30 ammo
Will shooting cheep russian ammo hurt my gun.
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Not appreciably. Shoot it up. 0 -
mine malfunctions about 20 of the time using Russian ammo... primer hits not hard enough. Commercial US works just fine... 0 -
I can't say from first hand with the Mini-30 7.62x39 but I know from personal experience and a lot of hearsay that Mini-14s hate the steel casing russian ammo. I had on two different occassions russian Wolf brand steel shells have the rims torn off instead of ejecting. I was told(on this forum many moons ago) that it is because the Mini-14 holds the shells at a tighter tolerance and that AKs and SKSs have more play and feed anything reliably. 0 -
Steel-cased ammo also has a laquer coating that melts as the rifle heats, and gums up the chamber. 0 -
Hi rocklobster,How hard is it to clean the gum out? Im a gun cleaning freak. Do I have to use laquer thinner? 0 -
madnes,
I've shot probably 1500 rounds of Wolf thru my Mini-14 it works fine. My buddy has like 5000 rounds of Wolf thru his Mini-14 (his firing pin broke at like 4000 rounds, most likely cause of the wolf, but whose to say it wouldn't have broke after 4000 rounds of anything).
I'll shoot the Steal Case Russian stuff thru any rifle worth under $500 bucks all day long, it does increase the wear on the rifle, but not all that much. If you have a really nice rifle feed it the good stuff, but a Mini-14/30, sks, sar, etc. are not nice enough to worry about what type of ammo your feeding em. If it don't malfunction shoot it up. You won't notice appreciable wear unless you shoot ALOT.
I do not shoot steel case thru my Handguns. Its more problematic (.45 steel case especially seems to have problems) and most of my Handguns are way to nice to be adding wear with steel case.
On the cleaning issue, it doesn't melt on for me, I do see lil flakes of laquer when I'm cleaning, but it comes right out with qtips when I'm working on the reciever/chamber area. Wolf/russian steel case stuff seems to deposit more stuff (laquer flakes, powder residue, etc.) in the reciever and gas blowback system then most other ammo, but its not that much more and its not really any more difficult to clean then it would be if you were shooting brass. Also the gunsmoke with the Wolf/russian steel case smells kinda funny, sorta ammonia like, doesn't smell quite the same as normal brass cartridges. Don't bother me any
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What you run into if it's really Eastern Bloc surplus is the bullet being larger in diameter. The Ruger barrel is .308", the Eastern Bloc rifles and ammo is .311". I believe, but wouldn't want to be that Wolf's may well be .308 too. There doesn't seem to be any info on the diameter of Wolf bullets. 0 -
rumour has it that russian ammo is copper plated steel core, which wears more on your barrel if you shoot the hell outta it. i don't have any facts to base this on, just what i've heard. i don't know if the 30 handles ammo like the 14, but my mini-14 hates russian ammo. maybe it's just very patriotic, but with wolf, it shoots, then ejects the empty and the next live cartridge in the magazine. as far as accuracy, i have not seen a major difference. i stick with american ammo, and it shoots great. i'd rather pay more, than spend a day fixing jams after every shot. cody
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Gilding metal clad steel jackets are a bit rougher on barrels than pure gilding metal jackets, but many countries, including the US, have used them extensively. I would also note that *many* countries have used lacquered steel cases for their military ammo for the past 60+ years, including Nazi Germany, the Communist Bloc nations and some Western countries. The US has developed the technology to produce these cases 'against the day,' although the loads have not been released as a standard. I have several examples of 7.62x51, especially, in my collection as well as SPIW and SAW specimens (which were all loaded in steel). I have no first hand experience with the Wolf ammo, nor the Ruger in 7.62x39, but I've seen no 'gumming up' associated with this sort of case material in my SKS. I do know that the Nazis used this style case in all their 7.92x57 ammo after about 1940 except for the B patrone (Spotter) rounds, including MG use in North Africa, and we've come a ways since then. Without the first hand experience with the ammo and rifle, I'm only guessing, but given Ruger's penchant for stamping warning labels into the barrels and actions, I strongly suspect the foreign manufactured ammo is probably OK, else they'd have all kinds of warnings in their literature and on the weapon. Still, it would be a good idea to verify that with them. The standard bullet *IS* .311 in this round (vs. the standard .308" of the US .30 caliber) and the American commercial FMJ bullets designed for this cartridge which I've bought for reloading have all been this diameter. Other than this *possible* issue, while I wouldn't use this ammo in a fine target rifle, I'd have no qualms using it for casual shooting. 0 -
I can`t thank you guys enough. You are a big help. 0 -
A friend of mine was having the 20% jamming problem with Russian ammo. He just tried the Silver Bear Brand of Russian ammo and while its dirty it fired every time. Its cheap blasting ammo too. 0
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