I need info about a 6,35mm German pistol
I'm looking for information about a Germen pistol I inherited. On one side is the name ( DeutscheWerke WerkErfurt ). The calibre says its a ( cal 6,35 mm ) In front of the trigger guard it says ( Germany and the serial number 140759 ) It is a little auto with wood grip and is about 5 inches long with the clip in the handle. I'm not looking to get rid of it but I would like to know a little about it. If anyone has any info i would surely appreciate it.
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I believe your pistol is a .25 Cal. Ortgies. It was made in Germany after the First World War, circa 1922/1932. Being it was marked "Germany" it was probably sold in this country commercially during that time frame.
H. Ortgies was the designer, or the person who patented the pistol. It was made in Erfurt Germany.
They were made and sold in (3) calibers, .25 auto, .32 auto and .380.
Your's is the smallest, the most common one seen is the .32 auto version.0 -
original or military martial models will be marked "ORTGIES & CO. ERFURT" the later commercial/export models will bear DEUTSCHE WERKE logos or proofs. RUFE-SNOW is correct, it is a post 1921 model. these guns are very well made, and well finished. your model is referred to as the "ORTGIES VEST POCKET MODEL" and was produced from late 1920-1926. in original unaltered NRA VERY GOOD condition it value is around $200.00. best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrmike08075
original or military martial models will be marked "ORTGIES & CO. ERFURT" the later commercial/export models will bear DEUTSCHE WERKE logos or proofs. RUFE-SNOW is correct, it is a post 1921 model. these guns are very well made, and well finished. your model is referred to as the "ORTGIES VEST POCKET MODEL" and was produced from late 1920-1926. in original unaltered NRA VERY GOOD condition it value is around $200.00. best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
See it pays to be nice to the elderly. The guy who willed me this gun was of no relation or anything. I never even knew he had it and all I had ever done with him was take him fishing a couple of times and talk about hunting and fishing. Here I thought all I had was a neat little pistol and I find out I have something that might be rare and worth something. There is a lesson here -( Be nice to the elderly because they might have some awesome guns you could receive for doing nothing more than being nice and taking the time to talk). It is in great shape and I do have shells for it but I don't know if I want to shoot it. Got any ideas let me know.0 -
I must have been sound a sleep on this as the Ortgies is my absolute favorite pocket pistol and I own 6 in various calibers. Outfaith, these little guns were the most popular pocket automatics from post WWI up until 1929- the arrival of the Walther PP changed the entire market. Brand new your pistol sold for $7.
The Ortgies was packed full of interesting and inovative features (3 were patented) and contained only 26 parts (without the magazine) and did not use a single screw! These pistols were top quality and are as safe to shoot today as they were 70 years ago. I suggest that you use imported .25 acp ammo like Fiocchi or S&B rather than the USA made as most early European pistols prefer the European loadings (which tend to be a bit hotter than what we have here). Nearly every Ortgies is rather well used as these pistols were carried often and were true pocket guns- very seldom seen in a holster. They would still serve well as a self defence pistol today as the rear grip saftey- which is the only safety- was one of the best designs of its type ever devised.
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