Per or Post 64

W

March 21, 2003 19:38

I have 2 winchesters 243 and 30-06 mod.70
S# for the 06 is G1692951
S# for the 243 is 1275852
When was they made and what are they worth? both are in exc. cond.
Thanks
W.

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  Ampersand

  March 22, 2003 04:39

  I have a book showing the G prefix starting at 1970, but it only goes up to 1982 without reaching the number on your gun (it gets close, though) so it was made in or shortly after 1982.
  
  My book does not show your second number (highest nonprefix number is under 1,000,000) unless you forgot the G prefix, then it was made in 1977.
  
  You can do a search of the active auctions for similar guns and get a sense of what people are asking/offering for these.
  
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  22WRF

  March 22, 2003 06:48

  Can't get the G # either but agree after 1982
  the other is 1976
  
  
  
  SOLD MY COW SO I DON'T NEED YOUR BULL
  A Grumpy Old Man

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  W

  March 22, 2003 15:48

  The 243 has a g in it G1275852
  The 06 is a lightweight carbine, I bought it in 1989 used but it had never been shot and was still in the box with all tags attached.
  
  Thanks
  W.
  
  Wallace

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  MAD DAWG

  March 22, 2003 20:11

  I am not a collector - and don't necessarily understand a lot of what I know. If your question is simply 'pre or post '64?' as the header implies, then:
  If the Bolt body has a long 'sleeve' fastened to it that runs parallel to the bolt body and rotates around the circumference of the bolt (like a Mauser, Springfield or 1917 Enfield bolt) then the gun is considered a pre-64. If the bolt is simply a straight diameter bolt, two lugs, and the extractor assembly is installed in the right - when open - bolt lug, you have a post-64. That is probably the first consideration in establishing the value of a Winchester Model 70. The pre-64 version is generally the preferred and higher valued version by both collectors and serious shooters. Generally - overall condition will be second. However - there are a lot of 'special' considerations - in particular 'unique factory features or chamberings, often associated with short or limited production 'special' models, or any other 'unusual' factory features.
  In addition, although the guns may be in excellent 'condition' in terms of appearance and maintenance, things done to the gun after they left the factory can significantly impact their value. These 'changes' include - alterations of stock or barrel length, the addition of or change of recoil pads, removal or change of factory provided sights, changes to the original or the drilling of more sight/scope mounting screw holes other than those provided by the factory, changed or added sling swivels ........ the list goes on -.
  Any changes at all will probably detract from the value of a pre-64 Model 70, unless the gun is simply a common 'working' gun to begin with and is being purchased to continue that purpose. Such changes, properly executed, are not likely to impact the value of a post-64 Model 70, or may even add to it.
  Hope this is what you wanted to know.
  Best............!

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