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W. & C. Scott & Son - London

BIJON
I have a 10 ga W. & C. Scott & Son Double that has Damacus barrels with matching serial numbers 43XXX. Can anybody advise when and where it was made and its approximate value. I'd say the gun is probably 75% or so...no rust and the wood is pretty good. Tks.
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  • He Dog
    Don't have my books available and I will be gone next week. If you don't get a better answer drop me an e-mail and I will get out the books. W. C. Scott and Son was a London gunmaker as you know. There are several incarnations of Scott, and I believe this one was around 1960. Later became Scott and Webley. sorry the memory is a little cloudy this morning.
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  • rufe-snow
    This Web Site has your shotgun being made in 1888. Be sure and check the proof marks to verify their either London or Birmingham. This will tell you that the shotgun is indeed English made and not a Belgian knock-off with spurious markings.
    If it is indeed a W. & C. Scott & Son, English made gun it's considered a "high grade" shotgun and "MIGHT" have some value , depending on condition and originality?


    http://gunshop.com/dgsnos5.htm
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  • BIJON
    How do I tell from the proof marks where the gun was made. It has lots of marks and they don't seem to tell if the gun was made in London, Birmingham or as you say perhaps a Belgian model? It does have London right after the W. & C. Scott & Son words on the rib between the barrels. Also, what is the approximate values involved for a gun if English or Beligan made? Tks.
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  • rufe-snow
    Your shotgun would be more valuable if it was a original W. & C. Scott & Son. You're going to have to describe the proof marks as accurately as you can for us. The English and Belgian proofs are different.
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  • BIJON
    The gun has lots of proof marks. On the underside of the barrel are two marks that look like "11" with a "line" underneith. Also two marks that are a "triangle" with "10" above a "C". Next there are two crossed swords with things that could be hearts between the points and between the handles...two more swords with the same things (hearts?) between the points and handles and also things between the handles and the points. There is also the word "choke" on the bottom of each barrel and two marks that look like a backward "3" with small "lines" connecting the opennings and what looks like a "flame, fire or perhaps a flag" coming out of the lines. There are a couple of other marks that are deeper and almost look like a bird with something like a letter inside that I cannot make out. There are also several other marks that are very small and I can't make them out. On the underside of the recever are two marks that are crossed swords with things (hearts ?)between the points and between the handles. also the words "W & C. SCOTT & SON" and then "MAKERS". Also there is a mark that is a "circle" with a "castle" in the circle that has 3 windows in it and a "flag on a pole" on the top. This same mark is on the bottom side of the trigger guard as well. Also, the words "W. & C. SCOTT & SON LONDON" on the rib between the barrels on the topside are all caps. That's about all I can find except for the metal butt plate that has a "shield" with "front to front 3's" that are connected with a "little mark" coming off 3 of the 4 curves...and a "A" between the front to front 3's and a "C" and a "O" on the legs of the "A". So...any information anybody has will be appreciated ...would like to know where this gun was made and its approximate value...my Grandson is now interested and has helped me put this proof mark information together as his eye's are much better than mine. Tks.
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  • rufe-snow
    As far as I have been able to determine, your proof marks are English. Their from the Birmingham proof house and would date after 1887. This agrees with the date of production given on the other Web-Site (1888).
    Given the above data it's almost certain your Shotgun is a W. & C. Scott & Son "High Grade" Damascus Double.
    Given the condition you have given "75 per cent & pretty good wood". I would make a wild as*** guess that it would be worth $200 to $300 in this country, but substantially more in England it country of origin.
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  • BIJON
    quote:Originally posted by He Dog
    Don't have my books available and I will be gone next week. If you don't get a better answer drop me an e-mail and I will get out the books. W. C. Scott and Son was a London gunmaker as you know. There are several incarnations of Scott, and I believe this one was around 1960. Later became Scott and Webley. sorry the memory is a little cloudy this morning.


    HeDog...Anything further that you might have on this gun would be appreciated...Thank you...BIJON
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  • BIJON
    I'm wondering if anyone in England can add anything about this gun?
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