scopes with built-in rangefinders
do any scope manufacturers produce a scope with a rangefinder for a
6mm rem rifle?
6mm rem rifle?
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I can't help you with your search but I can tell you this. No scope is going to know the load that your gun prefers and no scope is going to know the bullet weight that you are using. Therefore, no scope is going to know the trajectory of that bullet. IMHO these "rangefinding" scopes are a marketing ploy. They may get you close but they are no substitute for knowing your gun, your load and the distance from which you are shooting. 0 -
I agree that they are mostly gimicks to sell scopes. For the extra money you would spend for a range finding scope, you can buy a seperate rangefinder that is light and easy to use. If you are really interested in a range finding scope, Midway USA sells one called a Shepherd that is available in many calibers. Item # 799-471 and it is pricey at $575. You can get a good rangefinder and a Mil-Dit scope for that kind of money.
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The "range finding" feature does not care what rifle you put it on, the "balisitic compensator" feature does. Range is range. Drop is a whole 'nuther thing.
With any "balistic compinsating" scope, you need to find the best load (and that includes knowing the actual MV and BC) for your rifle. From that you can select the retical pattern that most closly matches your reality.
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
Tailgunner 'nailed' a bullseye on "ranging".
Rangfinding, and Bullet Drop Compensation (BDC) are scientific, and when done correctly will function as designed. They provide a certain anount of information, and enhance shooting technique to a degree.
If... shooting knowledge, markmanship skills, equipment, and, and , and,.....practice time are marginal, the expect only some, yes some of the benefits.
Remember equiptment is like food, cars, athletes, and photogaphy in that there are levels of quality, and performance.
Too often manufactures B-S advertising leads the reader/buyer to ASSume that since certain high performance cars use certain tires, that if you put those tires on your car, you get some of the same benefits.
The biggest variables(problems) are the human shooter, and their expecations.
Happy Bullet Holes!0 -
Shepard
Any Mil-dot reticle
Nightforce NP-R2
Nightforce NP1-RR
All of these have rangefinding abilities, but just as both tailgunner and guns-and-glass have stated, no scope shoots for you, and no scope makes up for your lack of range time.
You need a balistics chart FOR YOUR LOAD, FROM YOUR RIFLE, to be able to use any of the reticles which use holdover points for shooting beyond zero range. You must know what MOA the holdover points are, and then know what holdover or MOA of drop you need to compensate for, at the ranged distance to the target. This is specific to every different rifle. If you want to shoot elk sized game, obviously there is a margin for error, but for target/varmint work, you must be exact. NO System can tell you how to read wind,...so range time, even with the best equipment, is still the best teacher.
If you still wish to get a compensated system, look at www.kentonindustries.com They make target knobs which are calibrated and marked for any caliber of rifle.
I think what everyone is saying is to not fall for all the marketing surrounding these compensated scopes. If you go to a balistics software page (there are several for free), and input your caliber and it's speed, as well as bullet weight, BC, elevation from sea level, humidity, angle of shot, azimuth of shot, temperature, etc etc, etc you will get a balistics table. NOW, change a variable and see what happens to the table. No scope can figure that information for you, it must come from a balistics calculator.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
Got Balistics?0 -
I agree I'd watch out on those rangefinder scopes
New gun??? No, honey, I've had it for years.0 -
Josey posted this link on the General discussions forum...its a great simulation that will help on how to figure range using a mil dot reticul.
http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemohi.html
may be interesting to buy the whole CD and get some virtual practice in before buying any ammo.
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If you are willing to pop for the Shepard, that is the way to go. Otherwise, just get a mil dot scope and work with it to get ranging down. Takes practice, like anything you want to be good at, but it is the easiest way to go for good results and little clutter in your sight picture. 0 -
Cabellas sells one that ranges out to 500 yds. 3.5-10 and 4.5-14 power $330. and $360. circle represents a known diamiter if 18" would due just fine for a 6-mm once you checked it for drop at those ranges 0 -
thanks for the advice. a rangefinder for my 6mm rem more than likely will not work as i handload this for this gun. im sure that a rangefinding scope can not acurately determine my 34.2 powder/90 grain bullet weight . ill stick to the basics. 0 -
Ohio to try to clarify your range finding question. A range finding scope will work on any rifle with any load. It works by putting the correct size circle as in the scope I mentioned earlier on a target of known size. Example side view of coyote distance between frount and rear legs 18" three hundred yard circle fits in this space. Range determined is 300 yds. Rifle is sighted in at 100 yds. My known drop for the load I shoot is 2 moa @ 300 yds. I now know that I must click(my pulse just quickened I think I might be coming down with something)( man it's been a long winter) my scope up eight clicks (1/4 minute click scope) to hold the cross hairs dead on to take the shot. The purpose of the built in rangeing features is to make a quicker shot at a greater distance that your rifle is sighted in at. 0
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