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czechoslovakian shotgun

cruiserpt02
i have a 12 ga.marked special police edition blue with
nice wooden stocks in very good condition and would like
to know the value of it.this is a double barrel side by side
and appears to be very old.
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  • dkf
    What makes you think it is a Czech shotgun? You need to provide more information. What are ALL of the markings on the weapon and where are the markings located. Is this "Police" marking in English? What proof marks are on the receiver portion inside? Is it Nitro proofed? What company manufactured the weapon? Try the Blue Book of Gun Values once you have this information. Good luck.
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  • cruiserpt02
    the reciever has a z in a circle and a n in a square box,
    it says ( made in czechoslovakia )and then( special poldi
    elektro)on the 28" barrel choke-17.6 l/s and choke 17.8 r/s
    also the number 12, and a 67 after the serial number
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  • rufe-snow
    Sounds like you have a very interesting shotgun. Never ran across one with those "Special Police Edition" markings!
    I don't believe it's that old though. The "N" in "Square Box" is the obligatory proof for shotguns used at Prague proof facility.
    The "Z" in "Circle" is a mark used by the Ceskoslovenska Kbrojovka factory also known as "CZ".
    After the Communists seized power in Czechoslovakia in 1948 they took control of all commercial and military arm production. For a while they used the "Z" in "Circle" marking on guns produced for commercially sale.
    There's a little .25 Automatic that was marked "DUO" before they took over. After 1948 it was marked just like your shotgun "Z" in a "Circle".
    I would have a competent gunsmith check the chamber on your shotgun. If that "67" is the chamber depth in millimeters, it appears that your shotgun is chambered for 2 5/8" shells not 2 3/4".
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  • dkf
    The first proof mark that is for multi-barreled guns and is form black powder, the second that you identified is for semi-smokeless and is also know as "fourth proof". Now to confuse the issue, the Z can also denote Prague and was used on double barrel guns from 1955 to 1962, if this is the case than the N denotes modern smokeless powder.The number 67 after the serial number would denote the year it was manufactured.Take it to a good gun smith and have him or her test fire the weapon with 2 3/4' shell.
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  • hulvin
    "Special Poldi Electro" is nothing more than the usual type of steel for making shotgun barrels.
    Checkoslovakian police and shotguns?
    No, I don't think so.
    CZ in a circle is a trademark which they still use.
    Hulvin
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  • mark christian
    Sounds like a Brno ZP series, SxS to me. These were available in all sorts of grades and features. What are the barrel lengths? Does it have double tiggers? Side plates? Lets hear more about the police markings. The correct word for police in Czech should be "policii" (as in call the police) or "policie" (the word you'd find written on a ploice station sign). Very few European police agencies issue shotguns and why a SxS? How about some photos?

    Mark T. Christian
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  • cruiserpt02
    i have searched a little more and found out that the markings
    are special poldi edition,poldi is italian, but the gun was made
    in czechoslovakia does anyone know who poldi is and is he a gun
    manufacturer.
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  • mark christian
    Crusier my friend, you need to share some more information with us on this shotgun. All we know is that is a 12 gauge double barrel which you say is very old. It can't possibly be that old (not an antique)because Czechoslovakia did not even come into existence until late 1918- trust me, I know my European history very well. It is time for a full physical description of this shotgun- which was once a special police edition and is now a special Poldi edition. I have spent years traveling through Europe and I can tell you exactly who Poldi is: He was a wealthy count (Gian Giacomo Poldi) from Milano and a patron of the arts during the middle 1800's. There is a fine art museum which bears his name in Milano today- a great deal at the $6 is costs to visit so don't pass it up during your next trip to Italia. Why the Czechs made a special edition shotgun honoring an Italian count is well beyond any wild guess I can come up with. There may well be other Poldi's from Italy, but I have never strolled through their museums in Milano.

    Mark T. Christian
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