Bayonet question....
I just bought a detachable bayonet lug for my mini-14. I was wondering if anyone could tell me whether a bayonet fits over a muzzle break or if it would fit on the 1/2" - 3/4" of barrel in front of the site on a mini-14. I just don't want to buy a bayonet if the hole is too big for the barrel. Thanks!!
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I believe that most of the mini's are set up for M-16 bayos. I'm curious though as to the utility of this on a commercial weapon. Are you planning on a bayonet charge? 0 -
I am no fan of Rugers but if I remember correctly the factory rifles fitted with a bayonet lug (Mini-14/20GB) as well as the select fire AC-556 and 556F rifles all used a special front sight with the lug located on its underside. The Special sight was set back about 5" from the muzzel (the length of the bayonet handle). These rifles all used a birdcage style flash hidder (I beleive it was also suitable for launching grenades) which was of sufficent diameter to secure the bayonet's retaining ring. I believe that any bayonet which fits the M16 service rifle should fit a Mini-14GB of AC-556. I concur with skyking as to why you wish to add such a useless feature to your rifle? You will probably need to add a flash hidder to the muzzel in order to actaully mount the bayonet. That plus the bayonet lug would put you one deadly feature over the Crime Bill limits. Be careful.
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I have a preban Mini 14 with the flash hider and bayonet lug which fits the standard M16 bayonet. The two piece screw on bayonet adapters require the flash hider/muzzel break attachment to fit the M16 bayonet if we are talking about the same thing.
Now why would a civilian want a bayonet on his firearm? For me personally, in theory, after the ammo is gone the bayonet still makes the firearm a weapon other than a club. Just an added advantage thats why I bought that Norinco trench gun, besides it looks cool.
Question: Why is a bayonet and/or bayonet attachment such a threat or concern and has there ever been a gun related crime committed with an attached bayonet?
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Based on what I have heard and read on GB about those Norinco's, the bayonet itself may well prove a far more potent and reliable weapon than shotgun itself. Has there ever been a crime committed with a bayonet attached to a firearm? Of course not. Has any civilian ever used a bayonet attached to a his rifle in self defence? Even in the preban days I never once recall reading about someone out on a hunting trip who was jumped by thugs and forced to turn to "cold steel" after expending all of his ammunition. By the time you pulled that knife off of your belt, attached it to the rifle, and assumed the "on gaurd" position, I'll wager you'd already have been knocked out cold by a heavy rock! I'd use the rifle as a club and start swinging.
Here is some food for thought for all you want be commandos and survivalists: I just weighed an M9 bayonet (the coolest and the meanest of the dozens of bayonets that I own) with scabbard on my certified Ohaus scale- total weight 1 lb. 11.95 ozs. I just dropped a fully loaded S&W M37 Airweight on the same scale and it came up at 1 pound even! At 1 lb 12 ozs. I can have a fully loaded S&W 940 and 2 extra moon clips (5 rounds each) of 9mm ammo. A fully loaded Walther PP weighs 1 lb. 11 ozs. When push comes to shove I can promise you that I'll get that Airweight, 940, or PP out of its holster an on target long before someone could get close enough to stab me with that M9 blade...probably long before he even got it out of the scabbard. I own 100 handguns so it would take hours to go through all of the combos that add up to the same weight as a bayonet...but I think you get the idea. What you need is a good fighting knife and a pistol- and I'd count on the pistol first! These are my opinions and there may well be numerous civilian GB members who's lives were saved by the quick use of a well placed bayonet thrust. I salute them.
Mark T. Christian0 -
The Norinco trench gun with an attached bayonet is strictly a novelty gun for show that may have a practical application. Hanging on the wall of my den the trench gun with fixed bayonet is certainly menacing and intimidating looking to all nonshooters who visit. A great coversation piece and fun to shoot now and then.
Franky, I would not use the bayonet fixed for anything other than show.
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Thanks for the replies. Skyking, don't be such a smart @$$. This bayonet is strictly for looks. The gun hardly leaves the house. I know it's against the law, but with a detachable lug, when the gun does leave the house, I can take it off and leave it at home. My question did get answered, now I'll need to look for a flash hider. Thanks again!! 0 -
That was a valid question. What other realistic reason could you possibly have. As far as being a smart ass, I don't suffer fools gladly and have been told that before. If I hurt your feelings, sorry. You should have mentioned that you only wanted to play army. Roll Tide!
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You need the bayonet for the school yard charge. [:0][:0]
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