CZ52- 7.62x25 Pistol
Is the CZ 25 any good? I've a chance to buy one for $190 incl extra mag and holster.
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The CZ-52 is a very good and very interesting pistol with unique mechanism. But if you are looking for a pistol in that caliber 7.62x25, maybe the better choice would be the Tokarev (Yugo M-57 is the best), because it is reliable and easily convertable to 9mm Luger, so that you could shoot both calibers.
Hulvin0 -
It's an excellent gun. I'd rather have it than a Tok. But that price it a bit high, I got mine from FAC for about $140. FAC also sells CZ-52 9mm barrels.
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- Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes)0 -
Good reliable military pistol. Like most service pistols it could use some real sights. The bottle-necked 7.62x25 round feeds well. There have been reported problems with broken firing pins (I think they are cast) but I don't 'dry fire' mine and have not had a problem yet. But probably best to order a spare (I did).
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I got one of these a while back. Nice gun, not too fancy, though. Like punchie said, the sights are crap. And I agree with chunk, $190 is kinda high.
-Marcus
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These are very interesting pistols, although they have plenty of quirks. I have had numerous contacts with the CZ-52 during my travels through Eastern Europe and these pistols show up all over and often in the wrong hands- I think the terrorist "Carlos" used a CZ-52 due to it cartridges penetration abilities! The roller locked breech is extremely strong and because of this Czech ammo for the CZ-52 is loaded very hot and the muzzel flash is actually disturbing on a bright sunny day and in low light conditions it will blind you. There is nothing mechanically wrong with the design of these pistols and they served as the Czech military sidearm for decades, I have heard production numbers of around 200,000.
From a shooting standpoint they have some flaws: The trigger pull is very stiff, maybe 12 to 15 pounds- I don't carry a trigger pull gauge with me to Bulgaria. As mentioned, the sights are very poor using a thin front blade and the typical European U-notch rear sight. The pistol is muzzel heavy and does not point well for me. The grip is very long large for my small hands and I did not care at all for the location of the very small safety lever- which I would hit now and then while firing and set the pistol to safe making it usless until the safety was placed back in the on fire position. using standard Bulgarian hard ball ammo the CZ-52 is much more pleasent to shoot although accuracy was not very good- figure around 4" at 20 meters and everything I shot printed low. Plan on lowering the front sight balde a fraction. Field stripping the pistol requires a screw driver but is not too difficult once you get the hang of it. Of course I have Bulgarian military friends do this for me and I simply move onto the Kalashnikovs! There is no real reason not to purchase one of these pistols if you really want one and find the price meets your budget.
Mark T. Christian0 -
As suggested, the firing pins are very fragile. When I first purchased mine, I tore it down, cleaned it and put it back together. Then I dry fired it twice to get a feel for the trigger, maybe 10 lbs. I went to the range and tried to fire it and click... Makarov.com has some good info and parts for them. I put in an aftermarket firing pin kit which reduces the pull to about 5# which greatly helps accuracy from what I have seen. About $40 for the parts and the replacement pin is of a different design which cannot break although it eliminates the firing pin safety. S&B ammo works very good through mine and is non corrosive and boxer primed. reloading creates some interesting possibilities due to the caliber, and the ability to used 30 cal to .22 sabots. .22 hornet velocities from what I have seen others do. I paid 140 for mine. Neat gun, would definately recomend.
Why does everyone feel the need to burn that much powder?0 -
rich,
Is that firing pin kit a drop in item. Mine could use lots of lightening.
-Marcus
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Gravedigger, Supposed to be drop in, I had to do a little polishing to my extractor to get the firing pin to return reliably. When I first installed it, the return spring on the firing pin caused the pin to bind against the extractor which created an interesting situation when you released the slide on a full magazine. Not too unlike a CZ-26 SMG. The mfg said that 90% of the guns should drop in, mine was the exception.
Why does everyone feel the need to burn that much powder?0 -
I had a CZ and a Norinco in 7.62x25, and now I only have the Norinc.. The reason being, is I did not like the CZ. The grip is big, to explain, it is thin but wide and makes for an uncomfortable hold.(atleast for me)Mine was very pickie as to what ammo it would shoot.. The surplus ammo, it would fire @ 3 out of 10, but it never missed a beat with the S&B ammo. Accuracy was good, and I paid $120.00 with 2nd mag holster and cleanning kit...$190.00 is high...The Norinco fits my hand better, shoots as well, and does not care what kind of ammo I feed it...Only paid $80.00 for it in unissued condition in original box with 2nd mag 
made me smile...I love the round its self, it is alot of fun to shoot and the surplus ammo is reasonnable.0
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