can't seem to sell my cap and ball muzzleloader
I am in the process of upgrading to an inline muzzleloader because my eyes don't handle open sights that well anymore. When I go to the gun shops to trade/sell my T/C new englander nobody wants to buy it because they say every one is buying inlines. I took excellent care of this muzzleloader and it is in mint condition but I've been offered $100 when I paid $225 a couple of years ago. Any suggestions? I already checked into mounting a scope on it and thats a no go. I thought gun weren't supposed to depreciate in value. That's what I always tell my wife!!!! I know I know supply and demand, but how can I get more for the trade/selling of this gun?
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I don't think the shop owners are lying to you. Just as you are upgrading to the more modern in-line system so is just about everyone else. There just isn't much of a market for outdated equipment be it cameras, computers, or guns. It doesn't make any difference what you paid for it if nobody wants it now the price is going to be depressed. Also bear in mind that the dealers have to offer you only as much as they think they can pay and still make a profit. Try listing it for auction on GunBroker and see if someone wants this older style gun.
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Most of the gunshops I frequent have several TC's available all the time. Whether to sell cheap or not is up to you, but the market is down in most areas for traditional smokepoles.[V] 0 -
You must realize that if you paid $225.00 for this gun new then you take it to a dealer to sell ,he must clean it up and then resell it. $100 offer is very fair considering he must resell it for maybe $150-$175 if lucky. It is also true that the inlines have taken off in sales and are out selling the caplock and flintlocks probably 6:1 or more in some states. You might be able to resell this to a friend or another person for $150.00 if lucky. 0 -
Does your New Englander have a small screw in the top of the breech plug? If it does you can buy a Weaver style mounting system from TC; code number for your rifle is B30090 and the list price is $31.95. Rings and scope would be extra. The mount uses the small, threaded hole in the breech plug and (after removal of the rear sight) the two rear sight screw holes. 0 -
I have a T/C Renegade in good condition that I only want $100 + shippping for and can't sell it. Everyone wants an inline now so the market for side hammers has fell rock bottom. With today's market the person that offered you $100 was not out of line. I am an FFL dealer and we are flooded with side hammers and the only wat to get rid of them is to almost give them away. If some one brings one in to trade in I will allow no more than $50 trade in value. I know that that is not what you want to hear but that is the way it is in todays market.[:(] 0 -
dantheman: don't feel too bad I have a T/C White Mountain Carbine that I paid $249 for and have never shot it , I can't even get $200 for it, I've also have a Knight inline 50 cal listed here on GunBroker item # 7741367, that I paid $175 , its still new in the box , I've got it sarting at $140 and no bids, seems to me that its just the wrong time of year or some thing , good luck 0 -
dantheman: just to add to what i replied earlier, the T/C New Englander can be drilled and tapped for a scope if done by a competive gun smith. Also you can get a shotgun barrel (12 gauge I think) that will switch out with your 50 cal barrel. If worse come to worse you can buy a Green Mountain drop in barrel for that T/C in either 50 or 54 that is drilled for scope mounts. Have you tried the new neon sights or floresent (sorry about spelling)for muzzle loaders , they might help with the open sight problem. 0 -
Advertise here on GB. I sold both a muzzleloader pistol and rifle on the first listing. I actually sold the rifle for more than I paid for it (probably about even with tax), but I started the price reasonable and got a lot of bids on it. It had only been fired a handful of times. The pistol I didn't fare as well, I think I lost $50 or so on it, but I had it for 10 years and had a lot of fun with it. I also shot one deer with it at 45 yards, (that's still my most proud shot and it was just a small doe).
Just my 2 cents worth, I'd keep it. With the way all the laws are bouncing around on the inline subject, we may be back to sidelocks before we know it... I still have my favorite sidelock, a CVA that has helped me take over 50 deer. It's beat up and looks like hell, but it's still working. In fact, I had to use it for 2 years with no trigger because I fell on it and broke the sear, I just pulled back the hammer and dropped it when I was ready - try that with an inline. [:D]
No, I am not against inlines, I have one of them also. It only accounts for around 10 deer however, so I haven't grown as fond of it.
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Don't give up too soon. Many western states still require a "real" front loader for muzzle loader big game seasons. So, there should still be a market out there. 
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As stated above, you are probably being offered what is considered to be a VERY fair price for that gun as a trade-in. Gun shops exist to make money. They won't be able to sell it for $225 because $225 reflects not only the cost to the original dealer that you bought it from but also the profit margin that he tacked onto it. Your dealer can probably get a new one for much less than $225 by ordering direct from T/C. 0
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