Need to identify details of a 1911
We recently got a 1911 or M-1911 .45. But since the 1911 model is made by many companys (including Singer in a limited basis) and that the gun itself has no brand on the frame we have no idea what excactly is the brand. The slide is very interesting, it has a muzzle supressor on the tip on the left side there's a title that reads "Frabrica de Itajuba - Brasil" and on the other side there's what it seems to be the brazilian goverment seal, which says "Estados Unidos do Brasil" and under that "15 de Nevembro de 1889" which I assume it's their independence day, on that same side the title "Exercito Brasilero" is easy to read followed by the slides serial number 23XXX. The frame is also very interesting, it has two numbers on the rigth side by both sides of the slide's stop pin, on the left 70XXX and the rigth of the pin 26XX which is better engraved than the other one. To the rigth of these to numbers there is the engraving "NAVY". It also has real ivory grips with a metal eagle plaque on the rigth side. The buttom of the magazine reads "Colt 45 Auto". Thanks for taking your time to read this post and for any help. Here's a picture of the gun for better reference.
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It's obviously an A1, and obviously the grips, suppressor, and trigger are not original. In addition, the slide and frame don't match.
Colt did have a Brazilian contract (I believe in the late 1920's).
Looks like yours is a parts gun, made up from a Colt Brazilian Contract slide on somebody's parkerized frame with aftermarket trigger, grips, and suppressor.
The frame is most likely a WWII surplus...Colt, Remington-Rand, Ithaca, or U.S. Switch & Signal.
Also known as a "Bitsa".....bitsa this, and bitsa that. Value is that of a "shooter".
Too bad.....if this were a complete, original, Colt Brazilian Contract gun, it would be worth some $$$$$.
Anybody else have any ideas?0 -
Fabrica de Itajuba the national arms factory of Brazil started producing copies of the Colt 1911A1 in .45 ACP for the Brazilian military in 1965. Per "SMALL ARMS of the WORLD"
Your pistol although obviously of Military orgin has been BUBBAIZED to a great degree.
Compensator, Target Trigger, Ivory Grips, Finish etc. etc.
Most of the EX Brazilian stuff I've seen imported lately have been rifles. Never seen EX Military .45's with all the markings your pistol has (maybe some came in small numbers?).
Another interesting point is the medallion on the grips with the eagle on it. To the best of the knowledge neither the Brazilian Flag or the "Coat Of Arms" has a eagle on them, whereas the Mexican Flag and "Coat Of Arms" does. If this is a Mexican eagle with a snake in it's mouth, obviously this pistol has some connection with Mexico.0 -
Thanks for the info.
If I would have to price this, how much would you estimate?0 -
Depends on what 1911 parts guns are going for in your area.
Maybe put a price of $500 on it and let it go for 4 or 425.0
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