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blacarrow
I'd REALLY appreciate a DEFINITIVE answer on firearms shipping. Can an individual ship to an FFL holder? I'm gettings differing OPINIONS both ways, including UPS, FED-EX, and USPS. There are even differing opinions on black powder arms. In this case it's a modern shotgun. I'm sure this topic and been brought up before, and I apologize for plowing the same field, but I'd like to know for sure.

If possible, please send an answer to: bccole23@att.net

I don't always have access to the imternet.

Thanks

Rob
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  • 257izmycal
    Here is what I found out recently. You cannot ship a long firearm through UPS unless you:
    A) are a dealer shipping to a dealer, manufacturer, distribution facility or are shipping to a repair facility,
    B) are a private individual and are shipping to a manufacturer or are shipping to a repair facility,
    C) are shipping from a law enforcement agency to a dealer or repair facility.

    Those are UPS's rules not the ATF's

    You cannot ship a handgun through the USPS, dealer or not, but you can:
    A) as a private individual, ship long guns to a dealer, repair facility or manufacturer,
    B) as a dealer, ship long guns to a dealer, repair facility, manufacturer or distributor,

    These are USPS's rules

    I do not know about the others but do know that a hand gun has to be shipped overnight or next day and has to be shipped dealer to dealer or dealer/distributor...

    This is what the rules and regulations say per their policies (UPS & USPS) I had to get them both to show me what the policies were, as they did not know and I read them myself.

    I hope this helps.

    You're a statistic whether you want to be or not.
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  • nmyers
    While the responses given above are substantially correct, Rob did say DEFINITIVE.

    So, to give him that, let me refer him to the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide (ATF P5300.4) page 136:
    "(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm throught the US Postal Service?
    A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another State.
    The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no markings of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
    (B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm."

    UPS & FEDEX have the same corporate restrictions which diminish our constitutional rights, but are not illegal. I have never been asked for a copy of the recipient's FFL by either. I always declare the contents as "firearm for repair", even when sending a gun that I sold; it's legal, and they accept it.

    Neal
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  • 257izmycal
    SaxonPig,
    I am not sure where you are getting that from. I do not read that statement in the above dialog.

    You're a statistic whether you want to be or not.
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  • He Dog
    Saxon rifles can go dealer to dealer interstate

    I recieved a new pistol on Saturday that had been sent from dealer to my ffl via USPS.
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  • Ronald J. Snow
    Here is a bit of information for you. Under Postal Regulations 4.0 (Legal Opinions of Mailing Firearms) Postmasters are not authorized to give opinions of the legality of any shipment of rifles or shotguns. Contact the nearest office of the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for further advice.

    In other words, forget what the postmaster or clerk advises you and go directly to ATF or have the postmaster call them. Works for me.
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  • timbroman
    blacarrow et al - I, an unlicensed consumer, was okayed by my local postmaster to mail via USPS shotgun to out of state manufacturer for repair. The manufacturer told me it was okay beforehand (plain paper wrapped box bearing only my name and address and manufacturer's name and address, attn "Service Dept" - no contents note) but I squared it away with postmaster just in case. All went well. When repaired it was returned to me via UPS.

    timbroman@aol.com
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  • bigcountry_75214
    To all law abbiding citizens. The above letters just proves that the Government agencies; Postal Service, local Atf and so-on have no idea what the laws are. You can walk into 10 different post offices, ask all these questions, and probably get 12 different answers! Damn it makes me mad. I know UPS no longer ships handguns because they can't keep them from walking out uf the building.[xx(] As far as shipping long guns through the USPS: Who knows- ask again tommorow if todays answer was not the one you wanted.[V]
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  • 101AIRBORNE
    Shipment of handguns via UPS is overnight only and completely within
    UPS internal legalities. bc, I have no idea where you receive your
    incorrect information!
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