WW Greener 22 Hornet Rifle

Robert R. Sheldon

February 11, 2003 20:15

I am looking for an estimated value, and any other information about a WW Greener 22 Hornet serial # 44114, made in England, I believe, stamped both on the barrel and on the inner fore-stock. This rifle started out as another caliber, my bet is 22, and was rebored to the hornet. This work was done by a CC Johnson, I believe since it is stamped on the barrel, with a Thackery and two intersecting "O"'s under the name. On the top of the barrel is a Ww Greener. 68. Hamer... I am affraid the scope mount covers the remaining letters, though it may be "hammerless", since it is. It is a small gun as though made for a child or woman, no offence intended. There is a Weaver 2.5 scope mounted. There is much scroll work done on the rifle; particularly the breach area, bottom of trigger guard, safty switch area, breach lever, and all screws. There is an area of pitting on the barrel about three inches long by 3/4 wide on the octagonal barrel about midway up. There is a small piece of wood missing from the fore-stock where it meets the breach on the right side that is tapered 1/4 to nothing by about 1 and 1/2 inches. The other side is cracked similarly leangthwise, though not broken off due to gluing. The stock is checkered and has a metal but plate. Blueing is about ninty percent. The rear site was removed to mount the scope and not available with the gun.
I can e-mail pictures to thosae interested in viewing this rifle. I keep looking in gun books but have never seen another of this rifle.

Thank you for you help in advance,

ashdon@westelcom.com

Bob S.

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  wapo3030

  February 12, 2003 10:34

  This sight will help you...it did me!!!http://64.177.205.5/martini/gallery.htm

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  Robert R. Sheldon

  February 12, 2003 19:32

  I am sorry. Perhaps I didn't describe this gun very well. It opens like a shotgun[img][/img]
  
  quote:Originally posted by wapo3030
  This sight will help you...it did me!!!http://64.177.205.5/martini/gallery.htm

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  Iroquois Scout

  February 13, 2003 03:54

  I think that what you have is what the British call a "Rook rifle" they were made by several of the well known makers and were used to hunt small game. These small rifles were chambered for cartridges such as the 297/230 Morris,297/250 Rook and 255 Jeffery Rook plus others. The 255 Jeffery Rook looks very much like the .22 Hornet, except for a larger bullet. If your rifle is in .22 Hornet, then I tend to agree that the rifle was relined in this country. The Hornet is used in Europe, but seldom seen. I would expect to see the Hornet in a German combination rifle rather then in a British Rook rifle. It is very hard to place a value on these rifles. Factors that affect value are, maker (Greener is good), caliber, the amount of or lack of engraving, special features such ribbed barrels and special sights. If the rifle is in .22 Hornet it may improve sale value in this country as ammo is available,but, most collectors would perfer the rifle in it's original caliber. Last but not lest, overall condition is paramount. Best of luck. Scout

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  Robert R. Sheldon

  February 14, 2003 09:32

  You are correct sir.
  
  There has been quite a bit of discussion on this gun at Antique Guns .com. Thanks for your help.
  
  quote:Originally posted by Iroquois Scout
  I think that what you have is what the British call a "Rook rifle" they were made by several of the well known makers and were used to hunt small game. These small rifles were chambered for cartridges such as the 297/230 Morris,297/250 Rook and 255 Jeffery Rook plus others. The 255 Jeffery Rook looks very much like the .22 Hornet, except for a larger bullet. If your rifle is in .22 Hornet, then I tend to agree that the rifle was relined in this country. The Hornet is used in Europe, but seldom seen. I would expect to see the Hornet in a German combination rifle rather then in a British Rook rifle. It is very hard to place a value on these rifles. Factors that affect value are, maker (Greener is good), caliber, the amount of or lack of engraving, special features such ribbed barrels and special sights. If the rifle is in .22 Hornet it may improve sale value in this country as ammo is available,but, most collectors would perfer the rifle in it's original caliber. Last but not lest, overall condition is paramount. Best of luck. Scout

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