Info on this double dangerous game rifle

lead lobber

February 11, 2003 15:30

This is a .475 n2 double rifle with fancy engraving lions elephants ect. I would like to know who made it and what its worth. The bluing is good shape the wood has a nick but the finsh is good. There is a matching shot gun but its stock is broken. The PICS show lots of marks by the makers thanks

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  rufe-snow

  February 11, 2003 16:05

  In your 3rd picture there is a proof mark on the water table of a Rampant Lion over the letters"P V". My book shows that this is a Belgian proof mark used on "THE BARRELS AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ACTION PARTS AFTER PROOFING WITH A LOAD OF 50 PER CENT OVER STANDARD CARTRIDGE"

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  mark christian

  February 11, 2003 16:29

  I also noticed the same Belgian proofmark as the Snowman. I believe that this is a standard Belgian test proof mark for certain hard-tempered pieces like recievers and not a definitive nitro proof- this simply shows that the receiver was tested and is tempered properly. The words B. Blendef could be the maker or someone else involved with the rifle- importer, prover, ect.. The more interesting proof is over on the first photo. The crown over an upper case R is the British symbol for a reproof and the marking directly below (or beside in the photo) indicates that this was done in London and not in Birmingham. The 2 KG 4B7 marking indicates that this gun was made in Europe proper and not in England- should be stamped in pounds and not kilograms. The other markings are simply impossible for me to read. The engraving itself is of a rather low quality and very amatuerish- not the work of any quality British maker. This is stictly my opinion: This rifle is a Belgian trade gun which was engraved, perhaps even in Africa and at some point brought back to England where the law demanded that it be reproofed at the owners expence. Just my best guess. I wanted to come back and add a thank you for making the photos so easy to view by simply letting us click on the heading. I'm a computer dummy and if it gets tougher than this I'm lost.
  
  Mark T. Christian

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  Iroquois Scout

  February 11, 2003 16:49

  Your double rifle was made in Belgium. The letters E over L G inside of an oval is the Belgian proof mark. The lion over P V is the proved and viewed mark which was applied after the rifle was fired with a proof cartridge which gave 50 percent higher pressure then normal. There is also the Belgian smokeless proof mark on the water table. I would guess that this rifle was made some time between 1900 and 1914, maybe a little earlier. The engraving is very course and is very poorly done. Since the subject of the engraving seems to be tigers, I would hazard a guess that it was done in India after the rifle was sent there. It is hard to beleive that there is no maker's name or importers name on the rifle or the shotgun.

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