Old .410 Double
recently acquired .410 double with hammers.Name on it is DUIIOULIN Liege. Was the sellers Great-grandfather's.rare? value? It is in good condition,not excellent. No rust, a bit loose,no cracks in the wood, but there is a chip out of the forestock.
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There is a very famous Belgian gunmaker by the name of "DUMOULIN", makes very high quality, expensive guns.
Chances are, you have a "knockoff" made by a secondary manufacturer trying to use a version of "DUMOULIN"'s name on his guns to improve his business. This was quite common on the older shotguns made during the 19th century.0 -
belgian guild guns, most often made in liege belgium, are common place. everybody bys one sooner or later. i myself have a 10 gauge underlever damascus SXS.
typicly the value of these guns does not exceed $200.00, even in superb condition.
having said that, you gun is a horse of another color. a .410 gauge SXS shotgun will command a premium. .410`s are always in demand, and much sought after.
remove the forend of the gun, and dismount the BBL`s. on the underside of the BBL`s around the lugs you will find a plethora of markings. let us know what is there, and describe them in detail for a better breakdown on date of manufacture, value, and history.
best regards, mike.
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In the name "F.DUIIOULIN & C_" there is a short forward slash (/) on the second I (just in front of it).maybe it is there to make it appear as DIMOULIN. It definately doesn't make an M. Under the barrels by the lugs there is a small circle with E,L,G in them (E is above and between the L and the G. Just further on from these there is a diamond shape with a 1 and a M and a C.(the C is below and between the 1 and the M). There is also a 104 stamped on each barrel further along from the diamond shapes. There is a slotted head screw between the 2 lugs. Thank you both for your help.Any idea about value? 0 -
According to my book the "E" "L" "G" in oval mark, denotes the barrels have passed final proof, for "BLACK POWDER" only.
The "Diamond Shape" with "1" "M" & "C" is a gauge designation for breechloading shotguns that dates from the Belgian proof law of 1888. It's not clear how these (3) letters and numeral denotes .410.
The 10.4 (might?) be the chamber dimension or choke constriction in millimeters? These proofs from the last decades of the 19th century were in a state of flux because of the introduction of smokeless powder during this time period and the resulting conflict/disruption it caused.0 -
it is definitly belgian, and a guild gun made in liege belgium. it is probably made before 1894, when most guild hall makers began to proof there guns for modern smokeless powder. there should also be a stylized tower logo in there somewere. i will compare your markings to my european proof mark reference guide to double check this information.
as to value, i would estimate its somewere between $250.00 and $350.00. i would recomend against shooting this gun. you would need it to be inspected by a proffesional gunsmith, and you would have to aquire paper hulled, light load, black powder .410 shells. you chamber length is almost definitly not up to accepting a standard shell.
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.0
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