For SoCalDave, Your Opinion on Cammo?
SoCal,
You were right. As I read over the posts responding to my question concerning which environment or part of the country each cammo pattern was designed for, I realized that many of the responders must not have understood the question. Some explained to me that deer can't see cammo which was interesting because I never mentioned it was for deer hunting. As you know, we hunt turkey here in Missouri and you know from hunting with me what they can see. But I didn't mention turkey either. I suppose they didn't realize that other people, especially in my age group, might have learned about what deer can or cannot see after hunting for more than 30 odd years...
Some critiqued what I bought instead of answering my question. What was each pattern, Mossy Oak, Advantage Timber, Real Tree Hardwoods, etc... designed for.
Now, after reading those posts, was this question a waste of time? I was hoping some folks who knew about each pattern might have some scoop on what environment they were designed for. You say you can use the Mossy Oak in California? Where? What are you hunting?
Anyway, if you know of any sources I can go to for my research on this topic, let me know...
P.S. I forgot to ask you about how, in your estimation, the military's
woodland cammo works? And what about the Germans(?) or someone in
Europe, who was using red in their woodland cammo? Any word on
that? Like I posted on here, I am an interesting experience with
a helocopter in a state park here. It was probably a H-1. Dark
greenish black, no markings, and this was the second time. That
Forest Floor worked well...as long as you didn't move... still
don't know who he was or what was on his mind.
You were right. As I read over the posts responding to my question concerning which environment or part of the country each cammo pattern was designed for, I realized that many of the responders must not have understood the question. Some explained to me that deer can't see cammo which was interesting because I never mentioned it was for deer hunting. As you know, we hunt turkey here in Missouri and you know from hunting with me what they can see. But I didn't mention turkey either. I suppose they didn't realize that other people, especially in my age group, might have learned about what deer can or cannot see after hunting for more than 30 odd years...
Some critiqued what I bought instead of answering my question. What was each pattern, Mossy Oak, Advantage Timber, Real Tree Hardwoods, etc... designed for.
Now, after reading those posts, was this question a waste of time? I was hoping some folks who knew about each pattern might have some scoop on what environment they were designed for. You say you can use the Mossy Oak in California? Where? What are you hunting?
Anyway, if you know of any sources I can go to for my research on this topic, let me know...
P.S. I forgot to ask you about how, in your estimation, the military's
woodland cammo works? And what about the Germans(?) or someone in
Europe, who was using red in their woodland cammo? Any word on
that? Like I posted on here, I am an interesting experience with
a helocopter in a state park here. It was probably a H-1. Dark
greenish black, no markings, and this was the second time. That
Forest Floor worked well...as long as you didn't move... still
don't know who he was or what was on his mind.
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I'm not Dave but I'll stiil stand by my mix-n-match approach. Have also had turkeys walk within spit-n distance without a clue. I think you are better trying to match shades (gray, brown, green, etc.) than trying to match pattern. Here is a classic example for you. I used to wear a tan pattern when hunting cattail sloughs for duck. Went flying with someone during the middle of the season. Guess what? Sloughs look green from above till about mid season or later.
The chopper may have been someone training on thermo imaging equipmet. Our PD does this every couple of years.0 -
For Dakatashooter2:
Excellent post! That is the kind of information I was looking for. I keep wondering, as I'm hiking about in my various cammo shades (I'm not hunting but simply "stalking"...practice) why its so hard for me to see deer which are sort of tan and squirrels which are grey. Got me to wondering if maybe all our patterns are not on the right track. What you had to say confirms what I have been thinking. Again, I appreciate it.
P.S. Hey, SoCalDave, where are you? You said you were going to post with information from California. Now get on here cuz folks might want to hear about it. Maybe...0 -
For Dakotashooter2: Part 2
You think that was it? Everyone I know agrees with you about the copter. It was a state park made up of five trails. The trails I was on are not together. The circling paths, two hours worth, were so often I got to where I could time his approach. He came in fast, slowed, circled, and then a few minutes later he was over me again...for two straight hours! One path, and in and our one of 3.3 miles he did bigger loops but followed from one end and then back. I cut through the woods to throw him off. I wasn't doing anything illegal, I just did care for this activity. Then, back on the looped trail, he was over me really quickly...again, I hid under stuff just to see if he was following me. Most of the time he ended up right over me! I could see the windows but they appeared tinted. I couldn't see any markings on the copter. I didn't tell too many people because I didn't want them to think I'm into that black helicopter stuff...I'm not. There is no air base around here and I doubt if the State Park people would waste money to circle a hiker for two hours. This was the second time. I have not seen him in 3 weeks. PD you suppose? Makes sense to me. Are you saying that even with cammo, and me half hidden under trees, leavs, and stuff, they could see me in the day time?0 -
Notpars: It seem obvious that some of the patterns, like the grass and cattail patterns are aimed at waterfowl hunting from fields or waters edge. My take on the ones you mention are that they are marketed to sell, and the differences are intended to appeal to different buyers. Most of those will work well in the Missouri hardwoods, so take your pick. I did a little test in the desert last week end hunting for javelina. I worn a mix of advantage and advantage Timber. My partner could not pick me out at 1/4 mile if I kept my white beard covered. Not to say it would fool a pig or turkey at 60 feet, but at least in this case the combination of color and outline blurring was effective in hiding from my partner. 0
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