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PARKER BRO`S TROJAN SXS ??? HELP PLEASE

mrmike08075
1. SXS boxlock top break 12 gauge shotgun
2. 28" BBLS / 12 gauge/ raised rib
3. double triggers (one foe each BBL)
4. extractors
5. internal hammers
6. full pistol grip american walnut stock
7. hand checkered stock, bakalite buttplate and grip cap
8. 44" OAL
9. TOP OF BBL`S(on raised rib):(a feathered arrow)"PARKER BROS. MAKERS MERIDEN. CT USA TROJAN STEEL" (a feathered arrow)
10. RIGHT RECIEVER/LEFT RECIEVER: "PARKER BROS" (in script)
11. RECIEVER(were the lugs lock on): PARKER BROS REG. U.S. PAT. OFF. PAT`D OCT 25, 1910 PAT`D AUG 15, 1905 / 187362 "OV"(in an oval)
12. METAL UNDER FOREARM: 187362
13. BBL LUG MARKINGS(various locations): "JG" (in an oval) "OV", "HI"(over an inverted V), "12 . 2", "4 2"


i think this is a utility grade TROJAN model. it retains all of its finish (ie bluing) and the wood is intact and in good shape. it appears to be an all parts matching intact piece. it locks up tight, and functions. the saftey works. i would call it just under NRA VERY GOOD condition. it has the usual handling marks and field wear of a shooter of this age. the buttplate has a crack in it.

what is it worth???( i get 3 different prices from 3 different books, covering a wide range), when was it made??? how many were made??? is it rare, or common??? is it of interest to collectors??? any history and information would be helpful. best regards, mike.

What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
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  • bigcountry_75214
    Hey mrmike, my books say they made about 33,000 trojans beggining in 1912. The trojan was their lowest priced gun but not their best selling gun. Supposedly they are very hard to find in 98-95%.(Remember, an old guns percentage does not drop as much as a newer one in the same shape.) Did that make sense? I'm looking at atleast 1800-$2000.
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  • nord
    I don't mean to throw cold water on the guestimate above, but I have to respectfully disagree. I'll explain...

    The Trojan (as noted) is a field gun for starters. It has no options to increase the value, it's a 12 ga., and there seems to be enough of these guns around to satisfy demand.

    There's no question about the quality of this piece as a low grade Parker is so far above most others as to defy comparison. Still, that doesn't necessarily translate into value.

    Sadly, a Smith, a Parker, a Fox, or a few other quality field doubles in 12 gauge seem to go for bargain prices. Very nice guns can be had for between $600.00 and $900.00. With the normal use noted, I'd be reluctant to tell you that you could expect better from your gun. In fact, it might pay to visit a quality show such as the upcoming Baltimore event. Don't bring your gun in, just shop around and ask questions.

    If it were a 20 gauge or a .410... Well, that's a different story!
    The 20 will bring a nice premium and the .410 will easily double the price of it's larger sibling.

    Again... My opinion based on experience and location. Things do change in value as one moves across this country, but I think you'll find that I'm pretty much on the mark.


    Nord
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  • laxcoach
    mrmike, nord is right on the mark as to value. I suggest you take a look at the auctions here on GB to reinforce what nord has posted. Sounds like yours would be toward the higher end of the range of values nord stated. As an aside, yours is a relatively early Trojan, having been made in 1919.
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  • Xracer
    From the latest Blue Book:

    60% = $750
    70% = 850
    80% = 950
    90% = 1175
    95% = 1500
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  • 101AIRBORNE
    One criteria not mentioned, and absolutely required to establish
    value, is the percent of original case colors on the receiver.
    Although there were nearly 50,000 Trojans manufactured, strong original condition determines value. Further, some Trojans were made
    with a doll's head extension, but this is not a factor in pricing.
    Yhe first letter grade parker was the "V" or Vulcan. Anyone can toss out a value but in thirty plus years of collecting Parkers, I have
    never seen a Trojan sell for anything near Blue Book. Parkers are not
    rare but the ones in high original condition are. Shoot and enjoy! 101
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  • mrmike08075
    thank you for the replies!!! i was offered this piece for a very low price. i do not need one, but it is a PARKER after all.i have to think about this one. anybody know what length shells would be cambered in it???best regards, mike

    What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
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  • 101AIRBORNE
    2.75" is original but check to make sure the chamber has not been altered. Also, this is a "lead shot" gun. Best to make sure of the chamber. Also, my guess, from firing position, the arm will be choked
    modified and full. 101
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  • 101AIRBORNE
    Further...
    The Trojan was only made in: .12/.16 and.20--no .410 bores have been
    observed. The Serial No. indicates 1920 production but the number are
    a mess because of WW1 and the lack of manufacturing guns during the war years. There is a Parker Gun Collector's Association which may be reached thru: www.doubleguns.com
    Just make sure the gun is tight and safe to shoot. Yes the Parker name
    just stands out and says" Buy Me". A quality sxs. Have safe fun! 101
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