H&R SELF LOADER .32ACP MODEL 1909 PISTOL
1. blowback operated semiautomatic pistol
2. .32 ACP(7.65mm BROWNING)
3. 3.5 inch BBL
4. 8-shot single stack magazine(detachable)
5. grip saftey, mag. disconnect saftey, manual lever style saftey
6. blued finish???( it looks like a flat charcoal gray even finish)
7. checkered hard rubber grips with the "H&R ARMS Co." logo
8. hammerless model
9. cocking indicator(similer to the MAUSER model 1914)
10. 6 1/2 inch OAL
11. RIGHT HAND RECIEVER: "HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON ARMS Co." "WORCHESTER MASSACHUSETTES USA" "PAT. AUG 22, 1907, APR 13, NOV 9, 1909"
12. LEFT HAND RECIEVER: "H&R SELF LOADING" "CALIBER 32" "28282"
13. BBL:(underside near lugs) "28282"
13. FRAME:(under grip panels) "28282"
the gun is in full working/operating condition. it is a parts matching all original piece. i would grade it as NRA VERY GOOD or better condition. i dissasembled it, and it looks good. the BBL`s rifling is GOOD, but not perfect. it shows the usual normal handling and firing wear expected . i believe its a liscensced copy of the WEBLEY & SCOTT 1906 METROPOLITIN POLICE MODEL. they appear to be identical.
when was it made??? how many of this model were made??? is it of intrest to collectors??? what is it worth??? how rare or common is it???
if anybody has seen one or owns one i would value your opinion of this piece. is it a copy of the WEBLEY, and are parts interchangable??? what is the history of the gun??? best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
2. .32 ACP(7.65mm BROWNING)
3. 3.5 inch BBL
4. 8-shot single stack magazine(detachable)
5. grip saftey, mag. disconnect saftey, manual lever style saftey
6. blued finish???( it looks like a flat charcoal gray even finish)
7. checkered hard rubber grips with the "H&R ARMS Co." logo
8. hammerless model
9. cocking indicator(similer to the MAUSER model 1914)
10. 6 1/2 inch OAL
11. RIGHT HAND RECIEVER: "HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON ARMS Co." "WORCHESTER MASSACHUSETTES USA" "PAT. AUG 22, 1907, APR 13, NOV 9, 1909"
12. LEFT HAND RECIEVER: "H&R SELF LOADING" "CALIBER 32" "28282"
13. BBL:(underside near lugs) "28282"
13. FRAME:(under grip panels) "28282"
the gun is in full working/operating condition. it is a parts matching all original piece. i would grade it as NRA VERY GOOD or better condition. i dissasembled it, and it looks good. the BBL`s rifling is GOOD, but not perfect. it shows the usual normal handling and firing wear expected . i believe its a liscensced copy of the WEBLEY & SCOTT 1906 METROPOLITIN POLICE MODEL. they appear to be identical.
when was it made??? how many of this model were made??? is it of intrest to collectors??? what is it worth??? how rare or common is it???
if anybody has seen one or owns one i would value your opinion of this piece. is it a copy of the WEBLEY, and are parts interchangable??? what is the history of the gun??? best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
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Seen a bunch of them over the years, never owned one.
Book saids that roughly 35,000 of the .32's were made over the period, from the First World War to the mid 1920's. Apparently the .32's are more common then the .25's, and were made in a separate range & time frame.
Not a lot of people know about them, on the other hand there doesn't seem to be a lot of collectors interest or demand.
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Just like Rufe-Snow, I've seen several of these over the years, but never noticed any interest from collectors. The earlier .25 acp was a fully licensed copy from Webly and Scott during the pre-WWI period beginning in about 1910. Sales of this model were very poor and Webley let the license agreement lapse at the start "The great War" in 1914.
Your .32 automatic is a different story. It was related to me that H&R simply decided that a license to produce the Webley .25 automatic should also entitle them to copy the Webley .32 design as well. H&R simply proceded with production of this pistol as a modification of the Webley Model 1906 Metropolitan Police, the internal hammer and short grip safety of the H&R being major design changes. H&R also used a coiled recoil spring instead of the Webley V-spring. Production on the .32's ended in around 1925 and I'd be inclined believe Rufe-Snow's 35,000 production total. These H&R's are really pretty good little guns and have an easy takedown system and are very sturdy. I've seen these retail in the $250 to $300 range in nice condition.
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There is a H&R website hr1871.com where you can post questions like yours. I think there is a recent answer to your question there now. Also you often can find those H&R autos offered on the auction websites. 0
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