Handgun Silencers

HappyNanoq

January 26, 2003 08:24

It depends on what type of gun you would like to silence/supress and what loads you are going to use.

If you use subsonic loads, you won't hear much - but if you use regular loads, exceeding the speed of sound - you will most likely get the sonic boom, from the projectile going through the soundbarrier.
This is a thing that is hard to get around, some say there are bullets that doesn't leave a sonic boom due to their shape - there might be, I haven't seen or heard of any. (probably darn expencive too)

I do know though, that to get a silencer - you will have to have it registred.
I believe the registration ALONE, cost 200$ US. Just the papers that is..
Upon that comes the cost of the silencer.

I've read a little about silencers, if it's for heavy use, make sure the baffelplates and tube are made of steel.

There are silencers that "twist" the gasses outwards against the inside of the tube, other just brake the gasses in several small compartments, some are a combination of different ways.
Some actually uses water inside the silencer to brake the gasses and possibly to extinguish the sparks also.
I'm not sure which one is the best type, it all depends on your use and how many shots you want to run through it.

I like the Reflex-type silencers like on :
http://www.soundmoderators.co.uk/
But these are for rifles, but I believe they're made for handguns also.

For smaller calibers, you can make your own.
It still cost a registrationfee of 200$ US, and possibly a fee for manufacturing it (if you make more than one!)

I'm lucky, I sit in Greenland, where silencers are no subject to registration, nor are they mentioned in our laws.
They're legal to import, own, use for practise and for hunting, manufacture and sell.

I've made one variant out of a MagLite 3D-Cell handlight.
http://www.happynanoq.dk/silencer/

I hope you get the info you will need, as to getting a silencer and/or a gun prepped for a silencer.
They are a hoot to shoot, you don't need earpluggies for practise and the birds don't know what hit them.

If it's just for the looks, I believe you can get a Silencer-attrap that doesn't alter the sound emitted from the gun.
I don't know if there is any registrationfee on those though.

Happy shooting

Regards
Peter E Jeppesen
Greenland

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chappsyny

January 26, 2003 09:36

Go to your local gun shop and buy the pistol you want. Then change out the barrel with an after-marker threaded one. Next comes the hard part. go to your local class III dealer, pick out a silencer and fill out the paperwork. There's a $200 tax that you will have to pay to the BATF above and beyond the cost of the gun and silencer. The ATF will then run a background check on you and when it's complete, assuming it comes back clean, you can take the silencer home. It could take up to several months to complete.

In order to complete the BATF paperwork you will need to live in a state that allows civilian ownership of silencers AND you will need the chief law enforcement officer of your area to sign off on the paperwork OK'ing the transfer. They realy aren't that hard to get, there are just a lot of hoops you have to jump through.

New Hampshire, USA - "Live Free or Die!!!"

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1911

January 26, 2003 21:11

I am in the process of getting a suppressor as we speak and all I can tell you is if you do decide to get one I hope you are a patient man because I sure am not there are so many hoops to go through and now im wondering if it is worth all the trouble.

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p3skyking

January 26, 2003 21:51

I've found that .45 ACP and .22 Regular velocity seem to be the quietest. Still get nasty fingers from having to repack after 10 or so shots, especially the .22.
The Europeans use them a lot for indoor practice and it maybe easier to teach someone to shoot without all that noise.

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bambihunter

January 26, 2003 22:56

- didn't you ever see the movie "Under Seige"? [;)]

It doesn't matter what you shoot, just shoot it well...

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cwinn

January 27, 2003 06:07

My uncle owns a integrally suppressed Ruger Mk II .22 pistol, and it is EXTREMELY quite. Nothing like the movies, where guys shoot and people standing 10 feet away cant hear it, but they are remarkably effective and accurate.
Ive also shot his suppressed Uzi and using subsonic 9mm loads it sounds like a muffled hand-clap, is also quite quiet. I think suppressors have several justifications for purchase, not the least of which is they are much more fun to shoot since no ear protection is required and they are just plain COOL! But, like the other guys said, with all the hoops and such you have to really want one and be willing to wait.
I live in Illinois where they are illegal no matter what, so i cant tell you what all the laws and requirements are though.

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select-fire

January 27, 2003 07:15

I would suggest you go see a Class 3 dealer. Registration of silencers are $200 thru BATF and only legal in states that permit them. Some guns come with built in silencers and others screw on the threaded barrels for rifles and pistols. Pending on what you want they range from .308 rifle to .22 pistol. They supress the sound of the weapon is basically their only function. You would apply thru BATF and wait approx. 3-6 months for approval which is not always guaranteed.

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IAMACLONE_2

January 27, 2003 10:22

I own 2, one Coastal for Mac-10 .45acp, other is a ruger 10-22 by John's Guns in Texas.
My 2 cents, save your money!, buy something else. They are a pain to to clean and effect accuracy.
Good example on the Mac-10 after a clip of 32rds, its time to clean it, first 5 rounds are pretty quite, then it keeps getting louder & louder.
The 10-22 is a intergal unit, its really quite for the first 25 rds, then it to gets louder.
Walte

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select-fire

January 27, 2003 17:14

Thank you for the edit, Capt. Kirk

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