Which model 98 is this Mauser

Hoss101@gci.net

January 20, 2003 11:24

I just picked up a Mauser 98 in 308 Norma Mag. I believe that it is a 1909 Argentine action but am not sure. The serial number is A1039, no other markings are still visible on the action. Is there any way to tell which model this is? Please email hoss101@hills.net

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  Der Gebirgsjager

  January 20, 2003 19:49

  I'm afraid that without some additional information it can't be readily identified. Perhaps you might find additional markings on the bottom of the receiver if the action was removed from the stock? A dead giveaway for Argentine guns is a peculiar marking which, when examined closely, represents a handshake. The serial number alone is little help as most Mausers had a letter prefix to the serial number.

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  jonk

  January 21, 2003 06:01

  Well, unless the reciever has been scrubbed, it will have the Argentine coat of arms, aforementioned handshake, and will read "Argentino Modelo 1909 Deutschewaffen und Munitionsfabriken Berlin" or similar on the left side of the reciever.
  
  "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf

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  Hoss101@gci.net

  January 21, 2003 07:44

  Would that handshake happen to be on the right front receiver ring? I can make out portions of what could be a handshake. Everything else is gone, except for various proof marks that haven't been ground off. They did a nice job on it.

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  allen griggs

  January 21, 2003 08:33

  The handshake is found on the very top of the receiver ring and is surrounded by an ornate oval shield, with what looks like a sunrise peeking over the top. The early exports of the 1909 were required by Argentine law to have the crest ground off, this law was later repealed and many of these rifles came into the US untouched.

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  Buffler

  January 21, 2003 13:22

  Check out www.SurplusRifle.com Thry may be able to
  help you! BE SAFE!! Buffler

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  Der Gebirgsjager

  January 21, 2003 19:52

  Interesting! Yes, right front of the receiver ring might be right. I do not have a 1909, but I have several 1891s, and the "handshake" was put on some minor parts as well as the receiver. So--inspect the component parts carefully, like the flat side of the trigger, cocking piece, etc. Might also be found on the safety "wing" if your gun still has that original part. Anyway, check the smaller parts closely.
  Also, a description of the proof marks might help, as some of these rifles were made in Germany and some in Argentina.

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  Hoss101@gci.net

  January 22, 2003 13:11

  The receiver has been very well scrubbed, but I believe I can see about 2/3 of a handshake in the middle of the right front receiver ring. Nothing is original on this action, everything has been redone, very well I might add. It has an FN safety and a replaced bolt handle, plus the original bolt has been surface ground and polished bright leaving no markings. All in all a very nice rifle. Thanks for the info.

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  snowtigger

  January 22, 2003 19:18

  Love the 308 Norma. Ammo's a little hard to find. Brass can be made by necking 338 down, or opening uup 7mm Mag.
  BTW Mine is built on a Springfield 03/A3.

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