Remington Rand 1911
Where can I get a slide stop/release(whatever you want to call it) for a remington rand, 1911, .45? The pistol is entirely original and I want an original piece to replace the broken one. Thanks.
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I was on vacation a couple of months ago and found some remington rand .45 1911 they where dirt cheap I wonder how you can legally bring them back in the U.S. of A. what is the most legal way to bring them in? 0 -
It is likely that you have a collectable piece. DO NOT REBUILD IT.
Sell it to a collector and buy a newer utility pistol!
Have fun, be careful;
Morty0 -
Don't remove any of the little nicks and whacks. Each is a story all unto itself. Lay the old gun out in front of you and just imagine everything it's been through--the battles it's fought--the hills it's climbed--the lonely hours when the enemy was close--the numerous times it served it's owner well. And at the end of that trail, it now sits in front of you.
The condition of your gun is called "character." Don't eliminate it...appreciate it. The old gun has earned it's retirement. Treat it well.
Respectfully,
Rafter-S
"What is truth? No wonder jesting Pilate turned away. The truth, it has a thousand faces -- show only one of them, and the whole truth flies away! But how to show the whole? That is the question."
--Thomas Wolfe, "You Can't Go Home Again" (1934)0 -
Well--here we go again. I'll give you the flip side of the coin. There were an awful lot of Remington Rand .45's made. In a lesser conditon, as you describe, it falls somewhere short of being the Mona Lisa of fine firearms. The Collector Crowd doesn't want to stir any of the dust of antiquity; but what you have described is neither a desirable collector piece, nor apparently likely to win local shooting matches. It is your gun, it belongs to you, and you can darn sure fix it up if you want to! I'll try to specifically answer your questions. (1) It can, of course, be reblued. There are other finishes you might wish to also consider. The original finish, kind of rough and gray-green, is called Parkerizing. It is a phosphating process, and will out-wear bluing 3:1. It is not as pleasing to the eye as bluing. During the preperation for whatever finish you choose the nicks and scratches can be removed. When selecting a person/company to do the work investigate a little and get someone who does quality work. They will keep the sharp edges sharp, the rounded parts round, and the letters clear. (2)There are many aftermarket barrels available, and even some original barrels if you wish to proceed more in the line of a restoration. Clue: many Remington Rand .45's had barrels made by High Standard. They have a small "HS" stamped near the link pin hole. (3) Everything has a value. The problem is to determine how you will be best served by your pistol, and best realize it's value; by retaining it in it's present-less-than-satisfactory conditon, or by turning it into something you can use and will admire. (4) I'll speculate that Kimber probably does not do custom work on non-Kimber pistols, as they've built their reputation on producing new pistols with their in-house parts, but there are many custom pistolsmiths specializing in turning out topnotch .45's such as Ed Brown, Wilson Combat, Cylinder & Slide, etc. (5) What you will pay will largely be determined by just how much work you want done, and by whom it is done. Since you are supplying the basic pistol I would estimate somewhere between $850 and $1,200 for a complete customization. If you just wish to restore it to like new with no bells or whistles you are probably looking at about $500. (6) Charles Daly 1911's are made in the Philippines. They cost less because the workers that make them are paid less than comparable American workers. They are a good entry level pistol, and come in several grades and finishes; so the more expensive models are not that much less than some of the less expensive U.S.made pistols; whereas the less expensive models are in the same price range as some other foreign manufactured pistols such as the Firestorm and Llama. The old saying, "You get what you pay for" pretty much holds true in the world of firearms. Some further thoughts: With a sloppy slide and a shot out barrel I'm sure your pistol lacks accuracy, and therefore has little value as a defense weapon. In the condition described it is collectable, but on the lower end of collectable and value. If you want to keep this particular specimen then it is worth the investment to turn it into what you want it to be. If not, then sell it to one of these collectors, and put the sale price together with what it would have cost you to fix it up and buy a new Kimber. 0 -
I'm offering a different thought. Go to a gunshow buy a surplus barrel, bushing, and recoil spring. Keep the originals in the safe and put the "new" parts in and shoot the heck out of it. You would be surprised what kind of accuracy you come up with.
Now, instead of laying the pistol in front of you and thinking about the many roads, you can do it with each shot.
"There's been more lost to indecision that wrong decision."0 -
Agreed, some people will say to keep it as it is because it's historical others will say restore it to it's origional factory specs and yet others will say have it refurbished and tricked up. I say, there are tons of these old military surplus 1911's floating aroud in the condition you described at nearly a dime a dozen, do what you wish with the pistol.
If you want something to stare at for it's historical appeal, then leave it as it is and have a display case made out of it, if you want to shoot it I would probably do the same as the previous poster suggested and just buy a few new or good condition used parts for it and cut loose at the range. If you want a pristine or near pristine 1911 then I probably wouldn't bother having this one restored I would probably sell it and apply the money you get from it on a better condition pistol, you can find them all the time at gun shows. If you want a genuine military issued 1911 (ww2 roughly) it would probably cost you about the same or less to buy another one in better shape than it would to refurbish this one.0 -
1911 Automatics are not my field by a long shot, nor is gun smithing, but I've been collecting for 25+ years and this aspect of firearms I understand pretty well. I agree with Hauptman Gebirgsjager, the gun simply is not all that disirable in its present state. Once a firearm drops below a certain condition level (usually around 80%) it loses its appeal to collectors- unless it is very rare or unusual. Below 80% a firearm is valued for its shooting abilities and it sounds like you Remington is lacking in that department.
These pistols are simply too common in decent condition to make your pistol of interest to anyone other than the most inexperienced collector on a tight budget. In perfect condition your Remington would bring $700-900. In its present shape I'd guess its valued at under $300. Just like Herr DG stated: in its present shape the gun basically serves no function- it is neither collectable nor shootable- you have to decide what you need for it to do to serve you. I see nothing wrong with using this pistol as a basis for a new one which you can shoot and enjoy. Your pistol does not sound like it brings much pleasure to the eyes in its current condition and that aspect is a major part of collectable firearms- do you enjoy looking at it? If you don't, then why have it around? My personal collection numbers into the hundreds and when I get tired of looking at a gun- that is when it no longer looks good to me- then it gets sold...PERIOD. These are just my opinions.
Mark T. Christian0 -
quote:The blueing is in poor condition, the slide is loose and sloppy, the barrel is shot out and there are several nicks and scratches throughout. I haven't shot it as of yet.
You just described the 1911 I have kept on my nightstand for years...except mine was manufactured by Colt in the 1920's where yours was by Remington. With a loose slide and what appears to be a "shot out" barrel, it will produce targets in the high 90's at 25 yards. I keep it loaded with Silvertips which it feeds flawlessly. It's a true "go to a gunfight" gun.
You might want to give your old Remington a try before pronouncing it ready for a funeral. It may surprise you.
Respectfully,
Rafter-S
"What is truth? No wonder jesting Pilate turned away. The truth, it has a thousand faces -- show only one of them, and the whole truth flies away! But how to show the whole? That is the question."
--Thomas Wolfe, "You Can't Go Home Again" (1934)0 -
Blued?
I was under the impression that all Rands were parked.
A letter on my Colt A1-WW11-does list the parkerized finish as blue
though it is 1 1944 arm and has the original parkerizing.0
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