WWII COLT 1911 .45

vafranko

January 07, 2003 10:58

There are people here that are really full of gun knowledge. You have helped me out. I took your advice on the AR-15 which is now listed on Gunbroker.

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  richbug

  January 07, 2003 11:35

  Being the owner of a firearm that has had the serial number removed is not something one would want to advertise to loudly, That is unless you want to play 10 or so years of "rock hockey". sound like you got screwed by your "buddy".
  
  Why does everyone feel the need to burn that much powder?

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  SurfSalvage

  January 07, 2003 11:38

  I can't recommend selling any firearm if the serial number has been altered.
  
  Ancient Rome declined because it had a Senate; now what's going to happen to us with both a Senate and a House?
  Will Rogers

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  nmyers

  January 07, 2003 12:16

  There is no need to worry about rebluing the gun affecting its value; it is worth no more than the value of a used barrel, slide, & small parts. Besides, no gunsmith would work or it, as mere possession is a felony.
  
  There is a remote possibility that BATF would issue a new serial # for the gun. I suggest that you return the gun to your buddy, have him refund your money, and let HIM ask BATF if they will issue a new serial #. The worst that can happen is that they will confiscate the gun and arrest him.
  
  Neal

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  JudgeColt

  January 07, 2003 13:12

  This is a prime example of the dangerious lack of knowledge that some have of the most basic gun laws. Mere possession of a firearm with an altered or obliterated serial number is a felony.
  
  There are ways to "raise" the serial number on a firearm with an altered or obliterated serial number, and, if you want to take the chance, it could be that you could discover and restamp the original serial number on the pistol and thereby perhaps "restore" the pistol to legality. However, the reason the serial number is obliterated is probably because it was stolen, so you may just be proving you are in possession of stolen property by restoring the original number. Another possibility is that the pistol was stolen from the Army decades ago and there are no NCIC records of it being stolen.
  
  I would return it for a full refund, and never touch it again.

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  Txs

  January 07, 2003 15:28

  Besides the federal statutes already referred to, most states also have laws on the books covering the obliteration or alteration of a unique serial number on ANY item.
  
  Saying that the number had been filed off when you bought it wouldn't be a good defense to prosecution. Using the recognized legal standard of, "A reasonable and prudent person would have known...", mere possession an item that has had a unique number intentionally removed is enough to charge a person with possession of stolen property.
  
  Speaking as an LEO who has made these types of arrests on the side of the street many times, I'd say you should just back away from it.

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  narj

  January 07, 2003 17:15

  They scared the hell out of you didn't they? Sounds like you got some very good advice here!!

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