S&W 38 cal lemon squeezer
I moved this post here realizing after the fact this was a techie question:
Posted - 01/05/2003 : 17:54:36
I have a S&W 2nd model safety Hammerless 38 cal, (lemon squeezer). This revolver has the usual frame streach you might expect with a top break revolver,causing excess barrel to cylinder gap. At some point in it's history it was left on it side in the mud or water causing rusting and pitting on that side. (The other side has almost 90% blue left.) This has caused the timing to be off making the revolver unsafe to shoot.
I have thought about finding another one and making one from the parts of the two. These are 'nice' little revolvers many are still in use I understand. Assuming I could do the above, What would be the proper ammunition to use in this firearm.
Keep in mind this was a 'blackpowder' cartridge firearm (hence my interest). Many of the older cartridge firearms could not take the stress of modern powders used in todays cartridges.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
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Posted - 01/05/2003 : 17:54:36
I have a S&W 2nd model safety Hammerless 38 cal, (lemon squeezer). This revolver has the usual frame streach you might expect with a top break revolver,causing excess barrel to cylinder gap. At some point in it's history it was left on it side in the mud or water causing rusting and pitting on that side. (The other side has almost 90% blue left.) This has caused the timing to be off making the revolver unsafe to shoot.
I have thought about finding another one and making one from the parts of the two. These are 'nice' little revolvers many are still in use I understand. Assuming I could do the above, What would be the proper ammunition to use in this firearm.
Keep in mind this was a 'blackpowder' cartridge firearm (hence my interest). Many of the older cartridge firearms could not take the stress of modern powders used in todays cartridges.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
When you wrestle a 'gator, there ain't no good end!!
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
--Samuel Adams
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You are right, it was a blackpowder gun and that is the best to shoot from it. That said, very light smokeless loads such as 1gr bullseye (don't quote me on that without verification) and LEAD bullets should be fien.
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I also have a second model that I handload for. I use Pyrodex P powder and 148 HB wad cutter bullets loaded with about half of the bullet exposed. Mine has an even rust finish all over. I found it in a junk box at a gun store for $15. I cleaned it up and have shot it quite a bit. 0 -
Not all of the .38 S&W Safety Hammerless revolvers were black powder cartridges. The gun was made from 1887 to 1941. I had one that was stamped U.S. EX. on the side and fired standard commercial .38 S&W ammo through it. My 2nd EX. made off with it.
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My books show that 2nd model safety hammerless S&W 38S&W were made in the mid 1880s. I would think that would only be black powder cartridges. This model opens by pressing a button on top of the frame. This feature seems to be unique to the second model. 0
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