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Glock still shooting down...what can I look for?

sweaver
I asked a couple weeks ago what could be the cause of shots being down on a target. Several folks gave me advice and I followed it yesterday when I took it back out. I'm still having the same problem, so now I'm curious if something could be wrong with the gun itself. It's brand new, never been dropped (by me anyway). When I aim at the center of the target (from 10 yards out), the shots fall a foot or more below where I'm aiming. I was on a level range so its not an elevation issue. I'm going to buy the Trijicon night sights in a couple of weeks, I'm thinking of taking the gun and letting a shop install them and bench fire the gun...anyone have any suggestions on what could cause this? I still have a hard time believing it's merely my inexperience with shooting a pistol. How can you stand 30ft from a big target and miss by that much?? If I needed to take down someone and aimed at their chest I'm pretty sure I would take out the knees.

shane
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  • toolmaniam
    Possibly you are raising your head at the same moment you squeeze the trigger to "see" where your shots are going. I don't know how long you've been shooting pistols but this is a problem some people have that will make your shots low.

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  • bobski
    90% of all bad shots are human error. 10% are gun. if it is gun...its the front site. it may be too tall and needs to be shaved. if youre having new sights put on, let them bench and adjust it as you mentioned. you must first work the human before he gun. becasue if you adjust your gun to your bad quirks, as you improve, the gun will start being off again as you near proper shooting with time. and guess where it will shoot this time? did i hear you say, up? its hte classic 'chasing dope' problem new shooters deal with.

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
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  • sweaver
    You're probably right bobski...I'm a very good shooter with long arms but new to handguns. My ego cant take the this kind of shooting, I was expecting to pick it up and knock out the center right out of the box.

    shane
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  • RadCat
    I just did an action job on a Glock 17 that belongs to on of our club members. She is a great shot. She usually shoots 1911's and Cz 75's. Not much experience with the Glock or its trigger. She was also shooting low as you indicate. Around 2"+ low at ten yards, and worse at twenty five. I put in a "Ghost Rocket" 3.5 connector after adjustment and a "Lightning Strike" titanium firing pin (with the stock spring) and a few other goodies. She loves the gun now, but she says it still shoots low, but not as much. I took the gun with her to the range and "I" shot it. It was shooting low at 10 yards but only about 1/2" and dead on around at fifteen yardas. We changed the ammo to a different brand and this time it was shooting high instead. After watching her shoot, I disabled her slide release and put only four rounds in the magazine, and watched her shoot. Sure enough she was pulling the gun down along with the trigger on that last non-existing round. It takes a little bit of getting used to the Glock trigger. Your choice of ammo can also change your point of impact. But if the closest ammo (that your intend to stick with, like a particular defense load) is still off, follow "bobski's" advice with the front sigth or have adjustable sights installed. Meprolight makes some nice adjustable tritium sigths for Glock. Factory front sights in Glocks are plastic and inexpensive, try cutting down one like "bobski" suggests to see how far you have to go, before you try it in a more expensive front sight from a tritium sight set. Also try a solid stainless steel guide rod from Lightning Strike, it helps in repetitive shot placement. Hope this helps.
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  • ContacFront
    I have the same problem when switching from my 1911 to my Glock 19. Tend to shoot a lil lower than normal, just adjust to the gun.
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  • cussedemgun
    Mr. Weaver,

    1st.) you say you are new to handguns. are you familiar with the correct sight picture for "patridge" style sights? the front & rear sights should be held so they are flat & level on top. are you holding the front post to the bottom of the rear notch? this incorrect sight picture may be your problem.

    2nd.) have a friend or aquaintence that is experienced with pistol shooting try your gun to see if the gun has a problem before work/money is spent.





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  • wallie
    what works for me may not work for everyone but i would not touch that gun and leave it for what it was intended for. i would shoot 5 careful shots, if they shoot low then aim higher. go by your groups.
    like contacfront said adjust to the gun and like the old saying goes be wary of the man that has guns but be DAM WARY of the man that has only 1 gun because you better believe he knows that gun.

    try different ammo and adjust.

    buy a gun with target sights to support your ego. [:D]
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  • ghotie_thumper
    You really need to get to a qualified handgunner, whether it be a certified instructor or just someone you are confident knows how to handle a pistol. Have them try your glock out and see if they shoot it in a similar fashion. Don't do anything to alter the gun without ensuring that it is in fact a problem with the gun not the shooter. Fixing you will be cheaper than fixing your gun.

    Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue.
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  • bobski
    heres question we missed.........are you aiming center mass or 6 oclock?

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
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  • bpost
    High speed, light weight bullets used hot ammo tends to shoot lower in most guns. Its dwell time in the barrel is shorter so it exits the bore before recoil has had time to raise the barrel. 230gr. FMJ .45's in my glock are dead on at 25 yards. Conversely, 185 gr. hot loads hit 2-3 inches lower on the same target.
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