280 Rem. Vs. 30-06
Does any one have an opinion about the 280 Rem. in general, good or bad? Also, how does it compaire to the 06, is it a better all around cartridge? Thanks !!
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If I had my choice of comparable rifles I'd pick the 280.
It seems that anything you do to an '06 is an improvement.
I know there are scads of people who worship the'06 as the perfect cartridge, but why do you think they neck it up and down? - To improve it!
After shooting the 25-06, 270, 280, 8mm-06, 338-06 and 35Whelen, you hardly ever turn back to your '06.
Haven't shot the 6 or 8 I have for 10 years.
If you're careful you can reload to very close to 7mm Rem Mag. performance.0 -
muchow0123,
opinions you ask, ya sure, you betcha', just like the rectum, everyone has one.
fact, the only difference in the two calibers you ask about is in popularity thus avalibility of amunition & components.
obviously everyone already knew this so the real choice comes down to what you like. What did uncle Cletus use & swear by? what did your ol' dad swear at?
the real answer to your question is why do you have to choose? why not do as so many of the rest of did? buy one of each & spend the next 50 or so years trying to decide.
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From what I have read the 280 would be a wise choice. My only concern is availability if you do not reload.
The Gun Digest has stated it is possibly the best deer range load available, period.
If I were goimg to buy a deer rifle, it would be a .280 if I could get it in the right rifle model, stock configuration.
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I own the 25-06, 280 and 8mm-06. I don't own a 30-06 anymore. If I wanted the 280 but didn't reload, then I would buy a 270win. It won't handle the heavy bullet, but ammo is available anywhere you can buy 30-06 in just about as many configurations. 0 -
I guess I am one of the few who still Stand by the 30-06. Sure they necked up and down from the 30-06 but that was only to focus in on a certain requirement for that particular offspring. None of them are as versatile, have as many different loadings/availability or can do as many different things as well as their parent cartridge of the 30-06. If you want one that will do what all its offspring can do and more then Go with the 30-06. 0 -
MVP said it all. I'm not only a big 30/06 fan but a big fan of the offspring as well. If you want a cartridge that does lots of stuff well you cannot touch the 30/06. If you want something to do some other specific task well ( like shoot lighter bullets )then go with 280 or 270. 280 is a fine round but when compared to the 30/06 it comes up short when you want to throw 180 or 200 or 220 grain bullets at something. 0 -
Here is the ballistics of both guns with the same grain bullet.
Remington's website does nice for these such questions.
Good Luck I would go with 30-06. I feel that this covers the most ground with the most types of ammo.
www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/centerfire/comp_ballistics_results.asp0 -
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I have used and like the whole '06 family!!!!
There isn't a bad one in the bunch!!!0 -
The '06. As to the "everything to do with the '06 seems to be an 'improvement'" statement...poppy cock! The parent cartridge does it's job SOOO well after nearly 100 years that all those improvements?!...they are just refined versions that accept larger or smaller bullet diameters, thus making them more applicable to different game species. The 270 isn't a BETTER cartridge, but it sure does a beter job on 500 yd muledeer shots than the '06.
It does better because it's trajectory is flatter, and that's about it. The 338-'06 is great on Elk at moderate distances, but for a longer shot the parent '06 shoots flatter and would be easier to vary distances past 200 yds with. It's all minutae guys! We could argue this point for days, but get no further than many of the hundreds of Gun Wags who have debated this topic over the years.
End judgement? The '06 is hard to beat for flexibility, range of use and variety of weapons factory chambered for it! The 280 Rem is a great round and fits it's niche perfectly (all size deer species in the NA game spectrum), but don't let it confuse you as to who the real king is...the 280 I fear is the hemophylic heir apparant that may or MAY NOT make the throne. Brass availability alone will show you who will be around longer, most likely!
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To add to my original post:-
cussedemgun said it best.
Get one of each and spend the next 50 years deciding which one you like best.
The question was- which one would you prefer.
Since everyone won't have the same answer, all I have is mine.
Since I use many,- not all cartridges from 17 Rem to 50bmg, there's still the question in my mind,- why don't I shoot the '06 any more?0 -
The .280 Remingtonis a fine cartridge, a slightly better cartridge than the .270 Winchester but they will both handle just about anything that the North American hunter will encounter. Neither is quite as good as the 30-06. The difference is bullet weights. The 30-06 will handle bullets from 110 grains to 250 grains. The .280 weights go from about 100 grains to 175 grain bullets. The .270 go from 100 grains to about 150 grains. If you can't hit with a 30-06 at 300 to 400 yards then you are not going to hit with the other two either. It is more of a matter of learning to shoot what you have than trying to rely on trajectory. Bullet weight counts downrange and the same thing that makes a .300 Winchester magnum more effective at ranges over 400 yards than the 30-06 is the same thing that makes the 30-06 more effective at extended ranges than the 270 or 280. The ability to shoot heavier bullets at slightly increased velocity which will enable the bullet to retain its velocity better at longer ranges. I do not take shots on deer at over 250 yards for the simple reason that I do not consider it ethical. Out west would be a different matter because of terrain but I still would never take any shot over 400 yards. The animals just do not have a fear of man at thoses ranges unless they have been hunted enough to instill that fear in them. The ballistics are set in place by the laws of physics but the ethics are my opinion and binding on no one. Jim 0
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