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Cane Gun

Premier
I need some experts to ID what I saw. It is or was represented as a cane gun. The reciever is made mostly of brass and steel about 1"OD and 6 1/4" long. Protruding from the aft end is a 2 1/2" X 1/2" knurred "hammer" with a 1 1/4" brass ring to pull back and release to fire. The "barrel" is threaded into the reciever about 3/8". The firing pin looks like it would hit as a centerfire. The "barrel" has a steel liner which appears to be about 8" long. There apears to be some crude rifling at a tight twist but are rounded, not sharp and crisp like they where cut. The "barrel is 321/2" long but is very light material. A 32S&WL fits in the hole. The best part of all this is the markings. The only markings are on the brass reciever and are MADE IN THE U.S.A.WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS CO ---NEW HAVEN.CONN---PATENTED--- These are the only markings I can find. What the heck is this thing???
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  • Premier
    (hypothetical question) inherited a cane gun. hypotheticaly it might shoot a rimfire about .30-.32? push button trigger, black plastic-like finish. Remington posibly
    Thanks in advance ..
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  • bobski
    a very regulated class 6 firearm that is very very valuable. its a cane gun indeed. can you post a pic?

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, former navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction. NRA certified instructor.
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  • Premier
    bobski, thanks for the input. I will post a picture if I can figure out how. This thing really has my curiosity going.
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  • TRAP55
    Premier, I'll post em for you. You got mail.

    "Aim small...Miss small"
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  • Prebanparts
    Seems to me that Premier may not know what Regulated Class 6 means and may not know that if the piece is not registered with proper paperwork that he can do serious Federal time for having it
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  • mark christian
    There is no sense explaining about Class 6 because Class 6 is long gone, having been eliminated in 1986. There are no more Class 6 dealers and any one who held that license was given the option of becomming a Class 3 Special Occupational Taxpayer @$500 per year or simply reverting back to a Type 01 dealer. What you have Premier is an Any Other Weapon which must have been registered prior to the 1968 amnesty to be legal. If it is registered (the owner will have the paperwork to demonstrate this) it will be a $5 transfer tax. If it is not registered it may not be registered today and is contraband. Cane guns were once quite popular with gentlemen of the day who wanted protection from ruffians or highwaymen and several companies, including Remington and Winchester offered cane guns. A finely made exampe would cost round $10 and that was at a time when a person could have purchased three Iver Johnson or H&R break tops for the same money.

    "Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
    Mark T. Christian
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  • bobski
    ah, but the question that begs asking is..whats it worth today?!
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  • select-fire
    bobski.. I would tend to say quite a bit of money.. but then define quite a bit.. BTW ..I believe Remington made less than 2000 cane guns .. I read this somewhere long ago so my memory may be slipping.
    This would be an excellent auction piece pending paperwork was correct. A serious collector's dream.

    " It Ain't Over till its Over"
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  • Premier
    What if this "thing" was made in the 1800'S. Some people have suggested that it might be a thumb gun?
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  • Premier
    I am getting the drift that this thing would not be a normal purchase and that I should pass on it regardless of the price that I can get it for or what its potential value may be. However, if it was manufactured before 1900 would it not be considered an antique and therefore considered a C&R. In any event it has gotten my curiosity in overdrive so if anyone can give me any other information regarding this opportunity I would greatly appreciate it.
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  • mark christian
    Antiques and Curio and Relics are totally different animals. Antiques are firearms manufactured prior to 1899 but in most case National Firearms Act weapons are not excluded unless specifically exempted by the BATFE. Black powder firearms are usually outside the preview of the NFA...but not always. Curio and Relics are modern firearms which are at least 50 years old or are listed by the BATFE as C&R on their official Curio and Relics list and although they may be received interstate by C&R licensees, all NFA rules will still apply to their transfer.

    "Nothing can ever be made 'idiot proof' because idiots are simply too clever"!
    Mark T. Christian
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