p 14 volley sight
[how does the volley sight work on a p 14 enfield 303 thank you, j.j.size=6][/size=6]
I can shoot with the best of them, but hit that is something else
I can shoot with the best of them, but hit that is something else
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I have no earthly idea, but if you have one spare, I have a nice P-14 with the mount intact that is really begging for completion! If I understand the instructions I have seen in the past, the sight simply is elevated to it's full extent(on the left side of stock neatr the front edge of the reciever), and the front sight blade is used as normal. I sure wish I could help you out here, but as I said, I've been looking for one for some time and have had no luck, so learning more about something I didn't have didn't seem to make much sense! Can you post a picture of the device? That might help us figure the thing out for you. There are some people on this forum with surprising knowledge of virtually all things gun!
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[they have the parts listed in their catalog a gunparts.com under us military but no instructions on how to use them, j.j.[
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If it's the type I think it is, you set the slider to the desired range, and use the notch/peep as normal. The reason it's called volley is that your chances of hitting your target are very small, but between you and the rest of your squad you have a chance of scoring a hit on the opfor. Mass fire sights is another name for it. 
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Hi Tinman. Well, after several years of looking at gunshows, estates, Fleabay etc., you showed me where to find it, and I thank you! I was looking at the wrong stuff at Numrich and finally weeded it out from the rest of the parts diagrams!
If you look at the disk on your stock, it should have graduations up to several thousand meters (sorry, I'm at work so I can't look at my rifle...they have no sense of humor here at all!). After attaching the front volley sight rotate it up to the correct yardage and lift the rear sight to it's fullest extent for all ranges. You'll note that both parts of the sight are off axis to the left of the normal line of sight so that they do not interfere with the normal battle sights. What Tailgunner said sounds right to me. I had a class in college taught by a guy named Laurence LaFore who actually fought in "The War to End All Wars" ( this was the early eighties and, yes, he was really, REALLY old already!)as a Soldier for the English and mentioned that they used this technique quite often as nobody seemed really enthused about lifting their head and shoulders above the trench line as the German snipers were evidently pretty good. He said they would normaly break down to platoon sized groups and fire this way from the back of the trench trying to create a beaten zone in the trenches several thousand meters away. They would line up shoulder to shoulder and after locating the target area would use a spent piece of brass to mark their line to target by putting it on the front edge of the trench, and then step back to firing eschelon.
By then aiming over the top of the peice of brass, they could be realtively assured they were on target and not expose themselves to the sharpshooters that were a maximum of 300 yds away. Dr. LaFore mentioned that he was not very sure he or any of his fellow squadmates ever actually killed any Germans this way, but they all assumed the Germans kept their heads a little lower and 12 or so troops could launch 120 rounds (I forgot to mention, they were using SMLE's) into the same general area in about 8 to 10 seconds. Must have been scary to have those rounds coming down at that angle and hear no report to clue you in to where they were coming from!
"When I cease learning...I'm dead"(Me)
"When I was 14 I used to marvel at how ignorant my old man was...by the time I was 21 I was truelly amazed at how much the old bugger had learned in the intervening 7 years!" Samuel Clemens
"History is written by winners"(Patton)
"You get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than you do with a kind word alone!"(Al Capone)
"There is nothing lower than the human race...except the French" (Samuel Clemens)0 -
Howdy 1kydstr, my father was in that war also and I was in wwII and I have been a gun nut all my life, now I'm an old critter and like to restore old military guns, see ya, j.j.
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