1911 and clones
As I can not afford a Colt 1911, can someone list the 1911 clones that are identical to the original Colt, i.e., all part interchangable? Also, please give opinions on which ones are junk and which are good reliable pistols. Thanks.
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This topic comes up about once a week For my money I would buy a model 1927 ARGENTINE some were made by colt and some under colt LIC. The ones I would stay away from but is just IMHO are Charles Daly, Rock Island Arsanal. auto ordance. essex, norinco 0 -
What are you saying Charles Daley are very good.
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Hello Big Andy as stated in my first post it is my opinion The barrels on Charles Daly 1911 look alikes that I have worked on are "NOT" the same as any replacement/ Upgrade type barrels as sold by BARSTO, KART etc also any other aftermarket parts need to be reworked to fit. Plus the frame and slide are different sizes then standard. The Hardness on a ROCKWELL TESTER show they are not very hard They are safe to shoot but not up to par compared to colt kimber springfield les baer , sorry I did not want to slam you or your choice of guns I just have had different experience. quote:"praise the hardball gun 0 -
Best value is one of the basic Springfield Armory models. No baloney and often the first choice for a stock gun to customize among some of the best custom 1911 gunsmiths. Not necessarily the cheapest gun, but one you won't have to make excuses for. And if something is wrong with your particular gun, SA will fix it.
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I received a 'cheap' 1911 as a gift. It was very much appreciated because at that time I could not afford even a cheap gun. It was a Firestorm (full size). The scuttlebut on these is some are OK, some are not. I think I got a good one....it shot very well, never failed to feed or fire (although I used only ball). After about 1000 rounds, it still shoots fairly well, but it feels like you could cycle the action if you gave it a hard shake. It is VERY worn. Like I said, I got a good one for $ 225. Some folks report getting them that will not operate right out of the box.
Having recovered financially over a few years I bought an 'economical' 1911A1 from Springfield Armory. As mentioned by mballai, this gun is a start for some folks custom work. I just happend to get mine when they were offering some 'upgrades' for free. I put out $500, got a fine gun w/improved mag well, ejection port, bbl upgrade w/'hand fit' bushing, and nice sights.
If I had to do it over again I would save up for something better than a 'cheap' 45.....I just got lucky with my 'cheap' gun. Buying a used 'good' gun may be a better start.
If we do not hang together,
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Not sure if Norinco is still around but that was my first 1911. It's been years since I traded it in but this gun was accurate and reliable. I think the only time I had a jam was with reloads that weren't properly crimped.
Back at that time, lots of gunsmiths used them for customizing.
However, I do second the others with Springfield. I have a Trophy Match that's just plain accurate.
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Mine is built on an essex frame and Im dead on with almost every shot and it doesnt fail to feed or fire. It depends on your personal ability and knowledge of the weapon.
Larry
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Hello Larry THE essex were all put together from parts some are Excellent some were match grade but some wern't it depended who put them together I am not trying to slam your gun But the orginal was for a gun that he could later upgrade with after parts that did not need to be Fitted 0
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