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  • bpnoble
    I have six boxes of factory Herter's International Match Ammunition in 338 Mag. 200 gr. soft point. The ammo is in excellent shape and the boxes are good to very good. Does this ammo have collector value or should the ammo be shot and the boxes auctioned off?
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  • chuck
    Model 70, Winchester? I will pay $19.95 fer it.[8D]
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    bpnoble: Welcome to the Ask the Experts Forum and becoming a member of the gunbroker.com family...
    As for your Model 70....Gonna need a little more information..Year Action was made, Sights, Stock, Howz it tricked out? Area where You Live... Demand is going to be the biggest question...?....Best.....

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • toolman9mm
    well the only one i can find is the model 70 varmint that was made in 225 winchester..made from 1964-93...add 25% for .225 win. cal...this model had a xtr suffix...1978-89.... no sights...at %100 $470..
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  • 1KYDSTR
    OK...you found the only other guy in the Western Hemisphere that knows/likes this gun/chambering. There were only 2 companies (major) that ever made a gun in this chambering. one being Winchester and the other being Savage in the 340 line. I have several guns in this chambering, one of which is a Md 70 Varmint heavy barrel and is likely the one you are asking about. I bought this one recently in about 98% condition, and paid $430 for it with shipping. While it is not a pre '64 (made in '64), I still find it to be a very high quality rifle, and since I put better optics and a set of Leupold rings and base on it, it shoots at about 1/2 minute angle if I'm doing MY part! I have seen several since I bought mine and they seem to hover right around that mark, or just a bit more. The 225 Winchester is a GREAT round, and was obsoleted by Remingtons commercialization of the 22-250 wildcat which had about a 10 year head start on the 225. The 220 Swift, which is what Winchester was trying to replace was too hard on it's stainless steel barrel, and was getting much criticism (although in recent years it seems to have made a strong comeback!) so Winchester developed the 225 from the 219 Donalson Wasp/219 Zipper (and other similar wildcats)concept and put a small rim on the base to meet the specs of a 30-06 base, and those 2 rounds often share shellholders when reloading.

    Cosmetic condition is very important, but less so than barrel life when evaluating these Md 70 Varmints. It seems that from what I have seen over the years, the Varminter set at that time felt NOT cleaning a gun was the route to go. In the last few years I have seen quite a few 225 Winchesters that had a ton of rifling left, AND pits half way down the tube! Makes you wonder what THEY were smoking! Until recently there was a seller on GB trying to get $650 out of a Winchester 670 which is essentially a blind mag and harwood stocked, light barrel version of the Md. 70 standard. It appears as though after about 6 months, he has either sold it elsewhere, or wisely given up this folly. It was in remarkable condition, but I think the essoteric, rare nature of the chambering was not attractive enough to people to make them take the plunge. At any rate, if you can get a heavy barreled Md. 70 in Walnut for around $450, why would you buy the economy priced version for more? Good question and something to ponder I guess. Please e-mail me through my profile if I can help you out with anything 225 Win related!

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