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ICONOCLAST: unfamilier ammo box markings???

mrmike08075
TEAK,

we have a customer who works for NCIS...
as a favor he obtained a NCIS issue / marked box of ammo for my collection. i am unfamilier with the loading / markings / history / box art on this one and thought you or someone else might shed some light on these rounds.

TOP OF BOX:

50 CARTRIDGES
CAL 9MM L
LOT FC- 96K002-008

MK 243 MOD 0
1305-01-357-8488 DODIC A260
N00164-96-C-0042

LEFT FLAP:
NCIS9MML

RIGHT HAND TAB (TOP) UNDER FLAP:
XM9S
97011

RIGHT HAND TAB (BOTTOM) UNDER FLAP:
0696013

the box is all white with military style black print.

HEADSTAMP:
12 O`CLOCK: FC 96
6 0`CLOCK: 9MM L

its a brass cased jacketed hollowpoint...

i thought that military ammo could not be hollowpoint...
prohibited by the GENEVA CONVENTION ???

please shed some light on this one for me if possible. its an intruiging addition to my amatuer collection.
best regards, mike.



What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
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  • OleDuk
    Mike, while we wait for iconoclast, let's see whether he confirms these guesses:

    cartridge count
    caliber--9mm Luger
    lot number---- loaded in 1996

    military nomenclature
    National Stock Number
    contract number

    NCIS caliber designation




    right hand tab, no idea

    Headstamp, Federal Cartridge Corporation
    year loaded, 1996
    Caliber 9mm Luger

    May be a special load for NCIS, not for international combat use

    Let's see,
    OleDuk[:)][:)]

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  • Iconoclast
    I cannot comment on this exact box / loading, but I believe it is likely the same as the "FC 91 9MM L" ammo I have (also have some with a smaller HP cavity marked "WCC 85 9MM"). As I understood it from the individual from whom I purchased the boxes, these were intended for Special Ops units conducting missions against non-military enemies (e.g., terrorists, hostage rescue, etc.). I recently was advised by a former SEAL that the 1991 issue I have was intended for use in urban areas and is very much +P+, but very accurate and reliable in the issue Berettas. I also have "Black Talon" .45 ACP with a "W C C 9 5" in an Olin military box marked "DODIC A47X" . . . the lot numbers were obliberated. Again, I was told these were intended for Spec Ops units (likely on black operations?). I'm not terribly surprised that the 9mm load migrated from the SEALS to NCIS.

    It seems evident that our elite forces have tailored their inventory to include munitions which would not be employed against a "conventional" enemy and it makes good sense to me. OTOH, I don't think I'd want to be captured with such ammunition on my person.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain) ". . . And liberals." (me)
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  • mrmike08075
    thanks guys.

    TEAK,
    have you come across any of the BLACK HILLS military ammo yet???
    i have been looking for a nice BC headstamped current mil. contract piece, and have not encountered any yet...

    best regards, mike.

    What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
    contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
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  • Iconoclast
    I've not seen any of the BC ammo as yet, but I'm sure it will make its appearance in due course.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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