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Springfield Armoury .22 cal WWII training

archoverlord
Anybody have any ideas on the worth of this rifle. I have one that was passed down from my Grandfather and some local gunsmiths have made several offers, but I wanted to check here to see what you guys think it might be worth. Thanks.

"Better to have a gun and not need one, than to need a gun and not have one."
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  • perry shooter
    HELLO do you have rifle and can you post pictures ? There was a model 1922 and 1922 mark 1 and mark 2. If all orginal and compleat and
    "CORRECT " sights etc it could be worth up to $1000.00 mismatched and made up of parts $200.00
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  • archoverlord
    Hi, thanks for the reply. I do not have the rifle in hand - it is with my family. But, I do know that it is all original parts with the exception of a replaced spring due to the firing pin wasn't hitting hard enough and caused an occasional misfire. That spring was replaced by the gunsmith who made the offer to buy the gun. To describe it, it has peep hole sights and is a bolt action type. I was told that it was a training model used by the military that has a body more like a 30 06 - very heavy. Hope this description helps to identify it further. I will see if I can get a pic or two from my people back at home. Thanks again.

    "Better to have a gun and not need one, than to need a gun and not have one."
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  • bobski
    if it has a good bbl, its a tack driver.
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  • perry shooter
    Hello you need to get "ALL" markings even down to the marking on the elevator on the rear sight this should be a lyman rear sight but it is NOT the same elevator as the lyman 1903 30/06 sight as the drop on 22 long rifle is different than 30/06 the only thing I can say is there were some that had two fireing pins one top one bottom these were refitted ETC there are some rare ones and some madeup ones . prices will be all over the place. get some pictures of the receiver and entire gun but best thing is let someone with knowledge look at it don't ever take the first offer without more than one person looking at gun.
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  • bobski
    if i remember correctly, theres an 'overstamp' issue on some parts showing the modifications of the gun. if i remember correctly, its the overstamps that are better shooters, and the plain marked ones are the rare ones.
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  • archoverlord
    This particular gun was made by Springfield Armoury specifically for the military as a training rifle. It was supposed to have the feel of a much heavier gun 30 06 but fire with no kick .22 All marks are original from Springfield and other than the spring being replaced, the gun is in excellent condition.

    Thanks again to all who have replied for sharing your knowledge.

    "Better to have a gun and not need one, than to need a gun and not have one."
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  • perry shooter
    Bobski you are right. Post needs closeup pics of Action and ALL marks. quote:Praise the hardball gun"
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  • Herschel
    archoverlord, You are wise to seek expert advice on what your rifle is and it's value. The prices suggested in this thread are low. I have been collecting these rifles which collectors call "1922 Series Springfield Gallery Practice Rifles" for 20 years or so. I buy and sell several each year so am able to keep up with prices. One has to be a real junker to bring less than $400. Scarce variations in unusually nice condition can bring in excess of $2,000. A lock may be put on this topic before we can help you learn just what you have and it's value. If so, I will be glad to help you by email <hsgarner@tds.net>. These rifles came in three basic variations. Model of 1922, Model of 1922M1 and M2. Within these three models are some subvariations. Some, called "issue models" were made up for issue to military organizations. Others were made up for issue to DCM affiliated gun clubs and some were made up for sale to NRA members. What is needed to determine originality, etc is. 1) Complete serial number. 2) Date on barrel behind front sight. 3) Number etched on bottom of bolt. 4) Model as shown on receiver ring, e.g., Model of 1922, Model of 1922M1, Model of 1922MII or Cal..22 M2. 5) Type of stock (does it have grasping grooves in the forearm with a thin 1903 type buttplate or smooth forearm with thick, shotgun type buttplate?). 6) Type of finish on metal (blue, black parkerized or gray/greenish parkerized). 7) Is receiver ring and barrel drilled and tapped for scope blocks. (two holes in receiver ring and 2 more centered 7.2" forward of the receiver holes on the barrel. Rear sight should be a Lyman 48C with elevation index numbered up to 125. As has been mentioned above, good photos will help us to help you evaluate the rifle. WARNING, Any attempt to clean or remove rust from the rifle or to refinish the stock can severly degrade it's value.
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