Are all 2" snubbies horribly innacurate?
<Howdy All, this is my first post, pretty new gun owner so go easy pls>
I have been working w/ a 2" Taurus mod85 in .38 spec I picked up at the last gun show out here. I know a snubnose is for close quarters, but even at 20' I am having piss poor grouping (6-8"?), really seems like a wild card of a gun. It can't be all operator error, as I can take a 6" S&W .357 and put holes right in the center of paper no problem.
I bought this gun to take w/ me hiking out here in the Cascades, idea being close up w/ Big cat or bipedals.
Am I expecting too much for a $150-200 snub?
Thanks
I have been working w/ a 2" Taurus mod85 in .38 spec I picked up at the last gun show out here. I know a snubnose is for close quarters, but even at 20' I am having piss poor grouping (6-8"?), really seems like a wild card of a gun. It can't be all operator error, as I can take a 6" S&W .357 and put holes right in the center of paper no problem.
I bought this gun to take w/ me hiking out here in the Cascades, idea being close up w/ Big cat or bipedals.
Am I expecting too much for a $150-200 snub?
Thanks
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I had a Rossi 38 spl.
Didn't keep it long.
I think they are best for a gun fight in a closet
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snubs are secondary backup guns designed to save your life in close quarters. you dont need it be accurate. 5 to 10 yards is max use. if you need it better than that, you switch to a primary gun. a primary is good to 15 to 25 yds. snubs are good for room to room or in a crowd. 0 -
Some snubbies can be as accurate as their longer barreled brothers, it just takes a more steady hand to realize their potential. of our country.0 -
Thanks guys.
I've put maybe 800rds through this gun, results have been "hit an miss" (pun intended) throughout. I guess I am a little hesitant to keep putting practice money into it, when the only real reward to it is the report.
Another question though- will this older 85 shoot +p's ok or does it really need to be rated for it? Some hand loads I picked up at the show seem far hotter that the boxed stuff, but were not labeled as +P when I purchased them..0 -
several years ago I had a Rossi .357,and an 'older' Smith model 10.To the naked eye,they looked like twins. The 'Smith would shoot rings around the Rossi from a rest at 'combat distances',ie:fifteen feet,the 'smith would put 'em in cloverleafs,the Rossi would shoot 2-3"groups.....on a good day.
Point being 'better made' guns can outshoot 'cheaper made' guns.
We have a .44 Rossi snub that I do 'ok' with,but snubs take a ton of practice for bullseye shooting at any kind of distance.I'd say your groups are what that particular gun is going to do with that particular ammo.Different ammo can often shoot very different grops and points of aim.experimtent a bit.
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Taught my Girlfriend to shoot.......and she got herself a Model 60 Stainless S. & W. She "PRACTICES" at 25 yards and can put all five rounds into a group that could be covered up with a 25 cent piece......again and again and over and over!!! What more would you ask for regarding accuracy???
I've seen quite a few of my acquaintances that are just as good with various other 2 inch guns.....and some of the Colts also. Two shoot the 2 inch Taurus and do great also at 25 yards.....
Short sight radius will make even the "Good" or better shooters of longer barreled revolvers "blame" the gun until they get it mastered. I wouldn't condemn the gun too quick,..... might be the handler!0 -
Practice is everything....I regularly shoot both my Colt Det. Special and S&W 60 at targets out to 50 yards. Both have had some trigger work and with the right loads, all shots will print on a standard Man sized target.
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Put your snubbie in a machine rest next to your big gun and compare them. You will be surprised to learn that their intrinsic accuracy is very similar. A 2" barrel is enough to stabilize the bullet for accurate flight.
The trouble comes in when you combine smaller size, lighter weight, tougher trigger, and a much shorter sight radius. So, even though the snubbie has the same POTENTIAL for accuracy that a bigger gun does, it is much harder for the shooter to realize it.
6" at 20' rapid fire is adequate for personal protection, I should think, and that is the main purpose of your Taurus.
On my range there is a man-size steel silhouette target. It clangs when hit. One day, I made the troops shoot from 50 yards, which they don't do much. They whined. When they did, I pulled out my S&W snubbie and proceeded to clang the target at 50 yards.
What I didn't tell them was that, before they arrived, I used a big paper target and several rounds of ammo to get my "Kentucky windage." Once I knew where to hold, the steel target was mine.
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Don't use +p in any gun not rated for it. It might work fine, but if it doesn't, the results could be more than slightly unpleasant.
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I have a 2 inch Ruger SP101 in .357. I used it to qualify for my concealed carry license. No problems with accuracy here. 0 -
i inch is all that is needed to make a bullet accurate ,the rest is pure sight radius 0 -
Anybody, male or female, that can shoot a 5 shot group with a snubbie at 25 yards that can be covered with a quarter should be shooting professionally. I am impressed. My 25 yard groups would need a dollar bill, probably two or more, to cover them. 0 -
I've known two gunsmiths who really honed up their 2" carry pieces - all sorts of custom work - and I've been around when both of them did some pretty amazing shooting with the revolvers. I wouldn't want to have them shooting at me inside of 50 yards. Now, even when I was practicing with them a lot, I couldn't shoot my snubbies with particularly great accuracy past 10 yards, but still it was better than 6-8". As others noted, Taurus makes an adequate handgun, but it isn't in the same class as a S&W or Colt and shooting the smaller frame / shorter barrel pistols can be much more challenging that their standard size big brothers.
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