WEBLEY .455 MARK VI questions
1. the PRITCHARD-GREENER BAYONET.....
i am told that this 7" bayonet fits onto the MARK VI by locking on the BBL lug, holster guides, and foresight block. it could be used without interfering with the operations of the revolver, and was designed for trench fighting.
has anybody ever seen one of these???
are they still floating around on the market???
any repros???
what are these bayonets worth???
anyone own one???
2. "... another eccentric invention / addition was a shoulder stock."
has anyone ever seen one of these???
are they still floating around on the market???
any repros???
what are these stocks worth???
anyone own one???
how do they attatch???
3. .455...
does any other cartridge interchange???
any other compatible cartridges???
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
i am told that this 7" bayonet fits onto the MARK VI by locking on the BBL lug, holster guides, and foresight block. it could be used without interfering with the operations of the revolver, and was designed for trench fighting.
has anybody ever seen one of these???
are they still floating around on the market???
any repros???
what are these bayonets worth???
anyone own one???
2. "... another eccentric invention / addition was a shoulder stock."
has anyone ever seen one of these???
are they still floating around on the market???
any repros???
what are these stocks worth???
anyone own one???
how do they attatch???
3. .455...
does any other cartridge interchange???
any other compatible cartridges???
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
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The answer to 1 & 2 is yes. There are repros of both being made in India. The answer to 3 is no, but Hornady is now selling new .455 ammo. 0 -
Well, I have seen .445 Webleys converted to take .45ACP, using moon clips. I don't knwo if this is a gunsmith job or if they will "drop" in using the clips. 0 -
Converting a .455 webley to 45acp is pretty simple but is a gunsmith job and should not be done today.
First to convert a 455 to 45acp all you do is remove a small amount of the rear of the cylinder to allow 45acp in moonclips or 45auto rim to head space properly. The casing diameter of the 455 is the same of the 45lc so the cases will swell a little but not enough to cause problems. most people use 455 dies to reload so tyhe brass is not over worked. Both .451 and .454-455 slugs can be used some guns shoot well with the smaller ones other guns need the larger. lead slugs are almost always more accurate than jacketed. Reportedly a good starting load in 5grs of Unique.
In commercial ammo most of the standard and milder loading of 45acp are fine (I keep the velocity 850fps or under with 230gr slug) but stay away from +P loads as they will wreak a webley pretty quick. a good strong webley (preferably the Mk6 or possibly the Mk5 as they are the strongest of the military marks) will show no problems after years of use with the proper 45acp loads.
The reason the this should not be done today is simple, there are so many webleys floating around that have been "shaved" that those that arn't, even mixed match ones and ones that have a good amount of wear, get a premium over those in 45acp. Even unaltered 455 cylinders sell well.
So it would make more sense if you get one in 455 and in shooting condition and want a 45acp to sell it or trade it for a 45acp one and make a profit, or get a better gun.
The original 455 military load was a 265gr slug at 700-750 feet (in it long service life the load under went many modifications) per second, and loaded with 7grs of cordite. It primarily a a short range cartridge but was well known for it stopping power.
The Pritchard bayonets sell very high, normally over $400 as there were only about 9,000 made. There are suposed to be quite a few that were assembled in the 90s after hilts were found in the old Greener factory; most of these will not be fully assembled and be missing markings. The replicals sell for about $150-$200.
the shoulder stocks were intended for the parachute flare gun mady by webley on the Mk6 revolver frame. Though it said that some were put on evolver by officers seeking more range out of their revolver. Not a lot is known about there use. In order for them to fit a revolver the gripframe must be altered. Ive seen several revolvers sporting them. Price is all over the place as cheap as $150 as high as $600, the norm.
Numrich www.e-gunparts.com sells a replica stock and I dont think theirs will need to have the revolver altered. They sell for about $150 and seem to be as well made as the originals Ive seen.0
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