Springfield Armory 45 Failure to Extract
I recently bought a Springfield Armory 45ACP Compact and found it to be unbelievably accurate. However, when I shoot brass cased ammo such as regular hardball, i get a lot of failures to extract. Seems the case is pulled about halfway back an that's it. If I use nickle cased ammo such as gold dot, I dont have any problems. I supposed it's because the nickle cases are "slicker". I have ordered a new Wilson extractor. Should this solve my problems? All of the ammo used was new factory ammo and I felt the weapon was lubed adequetly.
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Are you using the factory magazine that came with the Springfield?
My buddy purchased a Springfield TRP Operator and had the exact same problem, + the slide would not lock back on the last round. He switched over to Wilson magazines and that solved his problem.
Also on the Commander size 1911 there is a heavier recoil spring, the gun just may need to be broken in. You also mentioned that the Gold Dots you were firing functioned fine in the weapon. This is probably due to the fact that Gold Dots are a defensive round and packs a little bit more punch than your regular FMJ ball rounds used for practice.
Check out this link for more info if you like.
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/tech/FTF_FTE.htm
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How many rounds have you fired through it ?
Give it at least 500 rounds for a break in
If you fired more than that already , you need to change the recoil spring ,those compact recoil springs don't have ? the life of a full size ,and gun must be very clean ,and well lubed ,{full break down and cleaned, not just a barrel and slide cleaning}
The extractor might just need tuned ,if none of the above answer the question ,and I would say that a nickel plated case is "slicker" or would have much to do with it ,I would more expect the round it self is suspect
Like I stated above you could have several reasons ,the compact fte is common , and was a big problem ,that only a few manufacturers have worked out ,and it was all in the recoil spring
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Hello this problem for the most part has 2 magor causes No. 1 you have a BURR in the chamber or No. 2 the recoil spring is too strong for the load you are shooting . Inspect the chamber and clean if you see machine marks these can be smoothed by polishing eith JB bore cleaner dont use power tool. It sounds like the spring is the best bet make sure the spring is the correct factory type . All recoiled operated pistols have to match the spring to the load . If you mount a red dot to the slide you need a weaker spring because the slide weights more . Get some one else to try the gun .If you are a small person and hold the pistol lightly or if they are ligkt target loads this can cause the problem. quote:PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN 0 -
I have put about 300 rounds through the weapon, hard to do when most of the hardball fails to extract. The weapon seems to be free of defects, but I don't like the spring set up anyway, but I don't know of a replacement for it (Springfield Armory Compact). I wondered if anyone made a "captured" type. As far as jamming with another shooter, it does. I expect the new extractor today, if anyone knows of a direct replacement spring and guide rod, please let me know.
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Forgot to mention, I did get some of the Wilson mags, but it does it with all brands, but the Wilson's are better. 0 -
Look on http://www.gunsprings.com for the spring you need.
I am almost certain that your spring in that Spingfield Compact is just too heavy for the hardball FMJ rounds you are putting through it. If it was the extractor or something in the chamber the Gold Dots with nickle cases would fail to extract also. Like I mentioned in my previous post the Gold Dots are a defensive load and will have more power to cycle the gun therefore extracting the case better than the FMJ rounds.0 -
You may have improper extractor tension. I take it that when you say it fails to extract, that the case is still partially in the chamber, and the extractor is off of the rim. In other words, when this happens, when you pull the slide back, does the empty then come out?
A simple method to check extractor tension is to use a full weight dummy round, or a loaded round (only at a range, in a safe manner), load the round, remove the magazine, and slowly open the slide, and see if the round stays against the breech face until it hits the ejector. if it doesn't, your extractor is not tensioned properly.
You can rebend this yourself, or take it to a competent gunsmith.
Also, if you want a different recoil spring system, check Brownells. If they don't have it, they probably don't make one.[:)]0 -
Thanks for the info. I will likely order a spring today. Question is, should I get a reduced power or a factory standard from Wolff, or something from Brownells? Sorry for all the questions. I am a Glock armorer, messing with the tech stuff on a 1911 is new to me.
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I don't know what slide length you have, But ISMI makes a spring converion kit for the 3" models that uses the flat springs like a Glock. I have converted my 4" Kimber to the Glock type springs. I had a smaller diameter full length guide rod and a new plug made. ISMI makes different power springs for the Glocks and I cut full length springs to fit. I use 20 # springs for normal load and 17 # for lighter loads. 0 -
Captain Skippy,
Just call Wolff Springs up and give them the model of your gun and they can give you more direction on what spring will work in your pistol. I'd try one that is 1 to 2lbs lower than your factory spring. See if that will solve your problem.
Perry,
Is there a particular reason why you had a custom guide rode and plug made for use with a Glock Spring in a 1911? This is the first I've heard of this type of modification in a 1911 pistol and seems like a whole lot of custom work to replace a part that seems pretty solid in the 1911 platform.0
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