Smith Wesson Single Action 22 Long Barrel Top Brea
Ok, I have this gun. Missing grip. The barrel is a long barrel 7" about it says " rr long barrel ctg" down it. The revolver body has the fancy SW in a circle that says patent below it on both sides. Underneath on the metal piece that would be attatched to the grip there is a 5 didgit #. The gun appears to be black pearl? Gun bluing? It is a single action 22 top break.
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Thanks to all of you who helped me id this. Too bad I can't figure out how to insert the image of it. Buut anyways I believe I might be listing it on the auction side this week.
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The more I look at it the more I think it is 2 guns made into one. The body has a revolver firing pin, but on a single action barrel? Why. Ug. Any Idea of the age or model of thesae parts? 0 -
"The body has a revolver firing pin, but on a single action barrel?"
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Do you mean single-shot?
What I think you might be describing is a 1st Model S&W Single Shot, which was a break-top (tip-up) single shot pistol on a .38 Single-Action 3rd Model revolver frame.
The Standard Catalog of Firearms describes it as:
"1st Model Single-Shot
This unusual pistol combines the frame of the .38 Single-Action 3rd Model with a single-shot barrel. This model is a top break and functions exactly as the revolver models do. The barrel length is 6", 8", or 10"; and the pistol is chambered for .22 l.r., .32 S&W, and .38 S& W. The finish is blue or nickel plated, with a square butt. The grips are checkered hard rubber extension types for a proper target hold. This pistol is considered quite rare on today's market, as only 1,251 were manufactured between 1893 and 1905.
.22 L.R.
V.G. - $750
Good - $500
Fair - $325"0 -
I did mean single shot.
Any idea where I can find a picture of the model you describe to compare?
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quote:Originally posted by pinkpoodlebettie
I did mean single shot.
Any idea where I can find a picture of the model you describe to compare?
Thanks.
Here is a link to a picture of one on Bob Simpsons site. Compare it to yours.
http://www.simpsonltd.com/Showroom/S&W/C3441/C3441_s&w_ssbb_$695.htm
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I really cant tell from that picture. It seems to be te shape, but its too dark for me to match the detail and markings. 0 -
Is there a way to make a positive ID by the serial #? Does that gun you are refering to have the text I liisted down the length of the barrel imprinted? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by pinkpoodlebettie
Is there a way to make a positive ID by the serial #? Does that gun you are refering to have the text I liisted down the length of the barrel imprinted?
According to the S& W Book, S & W made (3) different versions of single shot .22's on revolver frames, for a total of app. 12,000.
As the serial numbers were duplicated between models, it would be hard to differentiate between them, just by s.n..
I would recommend that you get a hand-on appraisal from a KNOWLEDGEABLE local collector or dealer to ascertain which one you have and it's value.0 -
Does it look something like this one?
These were made in three different variations with barrel lengths of 6, 8 or 10 inches. They were in production from about 1893 to 1923. The serial number on the bottom of the grip frame would help determine which model you have, and an approximate production date as well....
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The barrel is 6 inches and that picture is exactly it minus the grip. The number on it is 22683. 0 -
Now that that is all figured out. Thank you so much for the help. If I could get a date and value as well as which of the 3 models it is.
Where might I go about getting a grip? And once I do that I would be interested in selling it to someone who would mnore appreciate it. Whats the best avenue? I would say it is in Very Good condition.0 -
Its 22863, not the above listed, upon closer inspection there are a few differences. the back above the grip slopes downward, the above pictured does a 1/2 circle shape, mine has just smooth bump ups where some on there have actual screws, but in the same spots. And, lastly. Where the break apart is has circular flare outs on both sides on mine.
I found a grip that looks like the one pictured above, but the logo is black not gold and the pattent says aug 50 92. Could this be the grip? s this some remake of the original?0 -
quote:Originally posted by pinkpoodlebettie
Its Where the break apart is has circular flare outs on both sides on mine.
"Circular Flare Outs" appears to refer to the "Recoil Shields" found on the "First Model". Serial Number is in the proper range, also. This model was made between 1893 & 1905. 862 being made in .22 Caliber.
Still advise you to obtain a hands-on to verify model and factory originallity. If this is refinished/reworked, trying to obtain original grips, would be money down the drain.0 -
Wow, interesting indeed. Thanks so muuch for the info. No wonder I had a hard time finding it. How unusual.
So what would the value be if it was exceelnt minus a grip and plus a grip?0
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