Hi volume .22 pistol for combat/steel practice
Are there any significant differences among the Mark II, Mark III or 22/45 Ruger .22 pistols for regular practice (300-500 rds of .22LR per day, 3-5 days a week)? Course would be similar to Steel Challenge or other steel plate courses. Need to find relatively low cost weapon(s). Have S&W Model 41 that's showing a little age, breaking down a bit. I can't afford Marvel conversion. Need .22LR system so I can load 5-10 magazines easily and fire repeatedly!
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I use the 22/45 since it is suppose to have the same ergonomics as a 1911. All the angles are suppose to be the same. 0 -
Hi, and welcome to the forum!
What are you competing or planning to compete with?
In major power competition a 22 is fine to get the fundamentals down, but from there your practice is better spent with the full load round as recoil management/trigger control is what your trying to improve and the 22 won't really do that for you.
If your serious about the sport, reloading is the most economical way to go.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
Contender man, I respectfully disagree with you on this. There is valid reasons for practing with a .22, maybe he cant get to a range but can shoot a .22 in his backyard, price of ammo, etc. But the basics are the same, pulling a trigger on a .22 is much better than staying at home. It still keeps you sharp on the fundamentals.
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Ruger Mark II 5-1/2" bull barrel [:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Alleno
Contender man, I respectfully disagree with you on this. There is valid reasons for practing with a .22, maybe he cant get to a range but can shoot a .22 in his backyard, price of ammo, etc. But the basics are the same, pulling a trigger on a .22 is much better than staying at home. It still keeps you sharp on the fundamentals.
Alleno
Alleno,
We have no disagreement ... 22 is fine for the fundamentals, regardless of where he has to shoot, but then you have the next step to hone your competitive skills and you have to do that with the caliber/load that you'll be competing with.
I've always obtained a 22 conversion unit for a pistol I competed with, be it Glock or 1911, etc. and use them to maintain fundamentals, but then shifted to full load for the other aspects.
Is it necessary to obtain a "Marvel" class conversion unit for a pistol being used in high power "steel" type matches, IPSC, IDPA, etc.? No, you don't need that level of precision/accuracy, so go with a lower cost conversion ... which will run about the same, if not less than, a complete 22 pistol of the quality to stand up to heavy use.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
The Ruger 22 auto's serve me well, and I picked up a 22/45 a little while back. I may have gotten a really good one, but I would hope they are all this good. Trigger pull is crisp and the lightest I have ever found from the factory. After shooting it a while , I really came to like it since the grip angle is closer to my other autos. (My older ones just hold like my Luger..which I shoot very little). The 22/45 does use different mags than the 'Marks', and they take a little patience to break down and re-assemble.
Sure it is not EXACTLY like shooting your 45, but it is good practice for sight memory - even muscle memory (yea, I'll get dinged). I say this because I was taught, and taught my boys, "Forget about the recoil, don't even think about it, just think of getting the sight picture back".
Enjoy !
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Contenderman, I reread your post, kinda funny we were both saying the same thing. How do the .22 conversions work, do they function good with decent accuracy?
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Alleno,
Never had a problem with one. Just pop off the upper (slide) and slip on the new one. Couple minute job. Then you have same approx weight, with same lower (frame) and trigger.
Accuracy, good ... with the low/no recoil, if your doing everything else right, the groups should be pretty darn tight.
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Thanks for the info, I am thinking of one for my M9. Victor sorry, I didnt mean to steal your thread.
Alleno0 -
If high volume is a must (10+ round magazines), and durability is an issue; go for the Ruger MKGC678. The slab sides add enough weight that you get a workout, it's accurate enough for competition, durable, once you get used to flipping it upside down during reassembly you'll have no problems, and Ramline still has some 12rd mags around. Stick an EOtech on top and you're ready to run n' gun!
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