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I HAVE A WINCHESTER 12 GA. WITH CANTILEVER RIFLED BARREL. I AM GOING TO MOUNT A BUSHNELL 2X7 ELITE SCOPE ON IT. WHAT RINGS SHOULD I USE? I HAVE HEARD THAT LEUPOLD AND BURRIS SIGNITURE MAKE GOOD RINGS. I WANT THE BEST SINCE THIS IS A SHOT GUN. IT WILL BE USED FOR HUNTING DEER!
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Hello im looking for a cheaper scope $100.00 to about $130.00 to put on top of a new england firearms deluxe ultra slug hunter with the heavy barrel. It is a 12 gauge. I need somthing cheap but will with stand the recoil from a 12 ga. Bushnell, simmons, etc...give me some advice... 0 -
quote:I need somthing cheap but will with stand the recoil from a 12 ga. Bushnell, simmons,
I don't think there is such an animal.
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Few use scopes on shotguns, the distances lend themselves to open sights. I think these New England jobs have scope mounts and no open sights. I have used a Simmons 4x shotgun scope briefly and it seemed ok. Can't promise it will hold up for years. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by He Dog
Few use scopes on shotguns, the distances lend themselves to open sights.
HeDog- Do you do any close cover shotgun hunting? That is all we do around here, and MOST use shotguns with a scope. I definately think there is an advantage to using a scope for close cover, most important reason being light gathering. It can get pretty dark, and stay pretty dark in the brush.
I have seen, read, a lot of posters saying that a shot less than 100 yards should not have a scope, not only is it unecessary, but detrimental. This place has a lot of posters from a lot of different places, and I wonder how many people who say scopes should not be used in close cover/on shotguns actually hunt in such situations. In my personal experience, the scope is a big advantage to iron sights, and I cant find any time where a scope would be a burden on a slug or close cover gun.
By trhe way, I got your email- I was going to respond, but forgot about it until I saw your name on this post. Thanks for the info.
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I have one that would work for you ,e- mail me at
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Scoping shot guns is big business.
Most cheaper scopes make it difficult to really see how poor they are....or eventually become... because of the POI deviation on most slug guns & ammo.
Shotguns are very seldom "dialed in" or "wrung out" for accuracy.
Questions raised.......that affect POI.
Is it the ammo? Deviates greatly.
The trigger? Most not like a rifle.
The barrel? Too thin...to short....too long.
Barrel lock up? Same position all the tle....joint flex.
Scope adjustments? Internals on track.
The mount? Too high, flexs, see thru's used (bad-bad-bad).
Shooters position.?
Shooters proper technique? Or lack of it.
Many shot gun scopes are parallax set for 75 yds like many 22RF scopes.
That's somewhat of a marketing joke on the hunters because:
1. Many shotguns are capable of good accuracy from up to 100 yds if "wrung out". I have set up two super accurate rigs with the last one groupeing 1" w/4 shots at 100yds.
Was capable of accurate shots out to 140-150 yds.
2. Most shot gun scopes are low power. Parallax can occur....but it's almost impossible for the human eye to see, and hardly affects the sight picture.
Recommend:
Heavy-thicker reticles.
Dots < than 10". Red dots(electronic) aren't as bright in low light.
1X (yes 1X) w/ 5" dot....hard to find.
2.5X, or 3X or 4X maximum.
1.5-4X.
2-7X does work, but if on 6-7x restricts FOV. Remember shorter scopes reduce FOV.
Try buying a used quality scope. Usually better than new & cheap.
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Buy a Leupold VX-1 or VX-II, 2-7X32. With a little looking, you may be able to find the VX-1 new for $ 130. If not, the VX-II used.
A few years ago, Leupold replaced the VX-II with the VX-1 which is basically the same thing with a different name. And there is a difference between a VX-II and a VX-2 (more $$).
The main reasons I'm recommending this scope are: 1) fits your price range, 2) should last forever 3) Eye Relief - much more than most scopes.0 -
I use a ProPoint II red dot sight on my Remington 870. I find the dot sight lends itself well to slug hunting as it is easier to get on target and faster follow up for a second shot when necessary.
I gave up on scoping shotguns and hunting handguns as shots under 25 yards are difficult to line up as all you see in the scope is brown......
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I'm in the same boat as you my friend -- just got an Ultra Slug Hunter (replied to your other post too) and need a decent scope in the $100 range, and have been asking these same questions repeatedly lately. For what it's worth I'll give you the run down that I have come up with based on feedback. The Bushnell Banner and Trophy lines are supposed to be pretty good at around $89-$100. They have the circle-X recticle which I like, and have decent eye relief. I think I'm going to get the Banner 1.75-4X32 that comes with 6" eye relief (best I've seen). Also suggested was the Nikon Prostaff in 2-7X32, coming in at around $129. Good Luck. 0 -
You defineatley want something with a lot of eye relief and fairly good low light optics. I had a Tasco that worked well for a number of years, but alas, I think now it's moving all over the place. That's the problem with lesser priced, ergo, lesser scopes. They hold up for a while, but you never know when it's number is up, and mine happened at a really poor time. A shotgun isn't an elephant rifle, but the recoil is up there on the charts. I'm considering the Bushnell 3200( or others) with the firefly reticle. Also, Burris, Nikon, or as others have said, the Leopolds. But again, strong mounts and LOTS of eye relief. 0 -
I have a Bushnell Trophy 1.75-4x32mm & a Leupold Vari-X II 2-6, and I like them both very much. This is only the second year for the Bushnell, so I can't give you a long term perspective, but it seems like a real good value for the money. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by DBV
I think I'm going to get the Banner 1.75-4X32 that comes with 6" eye relief (best I've seen).
I wouldnt do that. Friend of mine put one on his shotgun, after a half dozen shots, the reticle moves around.
Find a used Burris or Leupold. They both would have around 4 inches of eye relief, in most cases that is plenty on a shotgun. I have used Leupold fixed, varis(vx2 1-4) and Burris fixed. THe eye relief was not an issue.
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