Gun building
Heres the deal: I like guns, but more often than not they are more expensive than my limited budget can afford. I am wondering if buying the parts seperately and assembling them would be cheaper or if I can even do this. I know that I can build a high dollar motor this way for less, and the same is true for the computers that I build and program, so I do have the mechanical ability but not the knowledge. If this can be done what resources are out there? Also I dont have the ability to do any machining beyond what I could do with a drill pres and a grinder, so I would be more interested in just buying and assembling. Thanx
the earlybird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.---Red
the earlybird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.---Red
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Sometimes it is cheaper and some times it costs more but the end product is better suited to your needs...it all depends on what you are thinking about buiding. For the most part it sounds as though you are interested in purchasing an exisiting receiver and then adding your own parts in order to assemble a complete firearm. As long as you violate no state or local laws by assembling some type of banned firearm (like an assault weapon where these are prohibited) there are no federal regulations which prohibit you from doing this (except for building machineguns) and many people find it enjoyable to start with just a stripped receiver and assemble a firearm from the ground up.
Mark T. Christian0 -
Most guns cannot be assembled from parts, even by those with great skill. That's because there is no source for stripped frames.
The few that can, such as AR-types, M1's, M14-clones, & M1911's, require an investment in tools & books that makes assembly of a single gun more expensive than buying a complete gun.
I just don't think that this is worth pursuing.
Neal0 -
I enjoy building my own,I have never had a problem finding receivers or frames to build on but most of what I do is 1911's.I have done a few AR types and working on an AK clone.I buy completed frames or receivers which are serial numbered and legal and have never need any special tools other than maybe a dremel tool for a little close fitting.It may at times cost a little more than something like a Charles Daly but I know the quality of parts I install,I know the quality of firearm I will have in the end,plus it gives you a little pride to go to the range with something you put together yourself and outshoot the guys with firearms costing many times what you have invested 0 -
Let us not leave out the Mauser 98. Barrels, stocks, triggers etc abound for this platform. Yes there is a learning curve and tool needs, a barrel press and action wrench are high on the list. But it is very doable. 0 -
This is more of a comment on building your own gun that I find somewhat frustrating.
If I am not mistaken, in order to purchase some of the parts such as the frame for a 1911 or the reciever for a 98 Mauser as an example, the part must be purchased from a dealer with an FFL. All the other parts are obtainable without an FFL.
Regards,
Heavyiron[8D]0 -
So other than sporterizing or building some kind of army surplus rifle there isnt much else to do? You cant, for example, build a remington 700 by buying the parts and assembling them?
the earlybird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.---Red0 -
yes you can buy parts for a remington 700; however by the time you purchase a junk gun to rebuild or a stripped receiver and then purchase the parts to build the gun like you want you are going to have more money in it than gun is worth. Unless you really just want to build one because you really want to build one in which case the money really isn't the issue. If you are building because you enjoy it i wouldn't even count the cost of the tools because you will obviously use them again and again. if you simply want to make it more affordable to buy a gun have you considered buying a new or used on at a pawn shop? The ones i have dealt with will let you lay any gun away for ten percent down and will hold it as long as you pay $10.00 a month with no interest charges. JMHO [:D] 0 -
yeah ive bought a few that way. I was just trying to find the bottom dollar way to go about getting guns. So if I were interested in building an AR or mauser style of gun how do I get started in that?
the earlybird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.---Red0 -
i would say the AR would be one of the better ones to build because of the abundant places to to buy parts in a variety of combinations. uppers, full lowers, stripped receivers, and so on. I'm not up on pricing of late but to get the best pricing on these parts you need to be a dealer or have a good friend that is one. Rock river (allthough not my first choice) and Olympic are usually pretty reasonable. I had a friend that would build these by watching prices in different advertisements he received. whatever was cheap is what he used; for instance he may have a rock river lower on a colt upper (example only) he might buy a triger group from one source and stocks from another. He couldn't say "I've got a Busmaster AR-15" but he had a good shooting low priced gun. Hope this helps and good luck. 0 -
[8D]I'm sorry redwolf, but firearms are not like ERECTOR sets.You just can't bolt and pin and assemble! Just buy a used firearm of you choice, you can probably upgrade from there ie: scope, adj sights, trigger jobs, grips,[:o)] etc.[:o)][:o)][:o)]
On your mark-get set- go away!!0 -
Mr. Ayers your advice to redwolf is sound and correct as far as telling him he is better off just to buy a used complete gun. however i have seen these AR's put together from different parts and it does work at least for this particular gun. I didn't mean to suggest he would be better off doing it that way. I was simply trying to answere the question he asked. If anyone wants to build a gun from assorted parts i feel that the AR-15 and many 1911's are the easiest to do this with. 0
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