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bobjensen1
I am looking for the date of manufacter for this gun. The serial number is: 34123. Can anyine help me? Thank you, Bob

Robert Evans
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Bob (and welcome to the forum)...

    The H & R Handy Gun was manufactured from 1921 - 1934... when it was subsequently outlawed by the NFA of 1934.

    Unless your Handy Gun is one of the very few (rare) examples with an 18-inch barrel AND the attached wire stock (which puts it over the 26-inch federal law minimum length), OR it was properly registered before 1960 (and you still have the registration paperwork), you are in possession of an illegal "short-barreled" shotgun, and are subject to prosecution of a felony offense. Conviction could cost you $250,000 (in addition to legal fees), and or 10 years in a Federal lock-up NOT of your choice.

    Please heed my warning... I am not joking about any of this[:(]

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • bobjensen1
    quote:Originally posted by bobjensen1
    I am looking for the date of manufacter for this gun. The serial number is: 34123. Can anyine help me? Thank you, Bob

    Robert Evans
    Wow...That was really fast. Yes, you are correct. The gun has a 12 1/4" barrel. It was correctly registered during the amnisty period. I have the paperwork. Do you have any idea of the approximate value? the gun is in excellent condition, and as far as I know, has not even been fired in over 30 years. Thanks so much for your help! Bob

    Robert Evans
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Bob,

    The last one I saw that was legally sold & transfered went for close to $1000 (and that was three years ago).

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • bobjensen1
    I really apreciate your help. My reason for the interest in this gun is because it is currently registered to a close friend in his 80's and he would like to give it to me. I applied to change the registration through the ATF in Washington DC, using the correct form. The ATF had no problem, but eventually denied my application, not because of any legality, but because I could not provide the signature of the Seattle, WA police department. I am being told by the local police it is an illegal gun in the state of Washington and they would not sign off on it...period! I believe, because of the manufacter date, the gun can be classified as a curio, or relic, under Section IV: National Firearms Act, weaponss classified as curios or relics under Chapter 18 U.S.C., Chapter 44. and I believe that would change the rules. Any opinions? Thanks again, Bob

    Robert Evans
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Bob,

    You are correct in that it can be correctly classified as a Curio & Relic under Section IV, but I do not believe that will sway or change Washington State law (RCW 9.41.190). Washington is one of the few states that does not allow ownership of ANY NFA firearm except by Law Enforcement angencies and the Military (I too am a Washington resident).

    The following link will help explain current Washington State law - http://search.leg.wa.gov/wslrcw/RCW 9 TITLE/RCW 9 . 41 CHAPTER/RCW 9 . 41 chapter.htm

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • bobjensen1
    Where does that place the original owner? He is still registered as owning that gun and it was properly registered during the amnisty period. Do you think he is now in the possesion of an illegal firearm? I certainly appreciate the information and your help. I have accomplished more in 24 hours with this forum than I have been able to accomplish in the last two years working with the ATF in Washington and the Seattle police department. Many thanks, Bob

    Robert Evans
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Bob,

    According to RCW 9.41.190,

    "(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law."

    What the above paragraph is saying (in legalese jargon), is that if said firearm was owned before 1994 (when Washington State passed its current restrictive law), the rightful registered (legal) owner is "grandfathered" under Washington law. What Washington (Seattle PD) is telling you now, is that they will not allow the sale & transfer of said NFA firearm to you (a third party). If your friend were to will it to a relative (or you) upon his death, then I "think" that it would still be "grandfathered" according to RCW 9.41.190. (I do not know that for sure, and I highly recommend that you have the legality of it checked through legal counsel).

    I completely sympathize with you and your predicament on this matter.


    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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