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Makarove double safety?

beantole
I have a Russian Makarov pistol. It has a manuel thumb safety but the instruction books claims it has a second automatic safety. The book says...

"In addition, the hammer is placed on automatic safety under the action of the hammer spring after the hammer is released (hammer "cushioning") so that the sear nose is ahead of the hammer's automatic safety."

Does anyone know what this means in terms of safety when carrying it in a waistband nylon holster beneath clothing? Thanks.

Bruce
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  • chunkstyle
    The secondary safety is the ridge on the hammer, keeping it from striking the firing pin in the event the hammer is pushed forwards (say from being dropped). It does not block the firing pin, like the manual safety.

    Maks are excellent carry weapons (I carry one all the time), the weapon's safeties are not an issue you have to worry about.

    Since I have been studying Greek lately, I'll give a more direct translation of the Thermopylae Monument: "Stranger, tell the Lakedaemonians that in agreement with their customs, we lie here."
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  • beantole
    Chunkstyle: Thanks for that information. I can now carry legally but I'm not sure I want to lug any gun around in my waistband stretch holster but then I think about the lady at Luby's (sp?) restaurant in Texas who had a gun in her purse in her car as she watched 21 people or so get shot to death including her parents. She said she could have stopped him if she had her gun. Texas did not have CCW back then. So do you really carry it all the time and isn't it a pain to do so?? Thanks.
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  • chunkstyle
    You get used to it. I don't carry at work (my employer forbids it), when I go drinking (against state law), and to my Dr.'s office (he asked me not to). Around the house, I have a number of hidden, but easily accessable, weapons (and no kids), so I don't carry in the house, either. But yeah, in public, I'm usually packing. I wear a wide plain black leather belt, and tuck an IWB (usually an Uncle Mike's) into it. I use a button shirt with the tails out for cover. Really, tucking in your gun is no different than any other part of your dressing ritual, like putting on your wrist watch or grabbing your wallet.

    I have outfitted a Mak with "makawrap" grips, for thinner profile when carrying.

    Since I have been studying Greek lately, I'll give a more direct translation of the Thermopylae Monument: "Stranger, tell the Lakedaemonians that in agreement with their customs, we lie here."
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  • beantole
    Hmmm. Wish there was a websight that actually listed people carrying a gun who have stopped an attack. I guess I can try to view carrying a gun the same as carrying my wallet. I appreciate your views and advice.

    Bruce
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by beantole
    Hmmm. Wish there was a websight that actually listed people carrying a gun who have stopped an attack. I guess I can try to view carrying a gun the same as carrying my wallet. I appreciate your views and advice.

    Bruce


    This is the best site that I know of that addresses all facets of CCW. I'm sure that the many posters have addressed your question in great detail. It would be well worth your time to pose your question over there.

    http://www.packing.org/

    Re the Makarov, I've owned them in the past. Although their a sturdy reliable pistol, they are to heavy and bulky, considering the cartridge they fire to be a optimum CCW handgun. My 2 Cents.

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  • chunkstyle
    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow

    Re the Makarov, I've owned them in the past. Although their a sturdy reliable pistol, they are to heavy and bulky, considering the cartridge they fire to be a optimum CCW handgun. My 2 Cents.



    I'm a big guy, so they don't seem bulky to me. And the weight is actually something I like, as it reminds me that my gun hasn't slipped out (my worst fear, even though it hasn't actually happened). A Mak is a little lighter than a Star BM, but much less bulky than a CZ-52, both of which I occasionally carry IWB. When I carry a PA-63, I just slide it into my pocket. I also have full-size Berettas (92 and 96), but I have to use a shoulder holster to keep them covered, with some kind of jacket. The CZ also works well this way. Now, I am lucky that the state I'm in makes no distinction between concealed and open carry, so if my weapon is spotted, I have broken no law. But it might make a scene, which I want to avoid.

    Since I have been studying Greek lately, I'll give a more direct translation of the Thermopylae Monument: "Stranger, tell the Lakedaemonians that in agreement with their customs, we lie here."
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by chunkstyle


    I'm a big guy, so they don't seem bulky to me. And the weight is actually something I like, as it reminds me that my gun hasn't slipped out (my worst fear, even though it hasn't actually happened). A Mak is a little lighter than a Star BM, but much less bulky than a CZ-52, both of which I occasionally carry IWB. When I carry a PA-63, I just slide it into my pocket. I also have full-size Berettas (92 and 96), but I have to use a shoulder holster to keep them covered, with some kind of jacket. The CZ also works well this way. Now, I am lucky that the state I'm in makes no distinction between concealed and open carry, so if my weapon is spotted, I have broken no law. But it might make a scene, which I want to avoid.




    I don't mean to be picking a fight with you, but "CONCEALED" means just that. We got a really large gentleman who shoots on our club range. He carries what looks like a 1911 Colt in a inside the waistband holster behind his right hip. It stands out like a sore thumb. The only real way he would be able to get away with it, would be to wear a jacket or a oversize shirt, outside his pants.

    I don't care how big you are, anytime you CCW with a large handgun you have to dress real carefully and have it positioned correctly on your body, to have any hope of it being truly concealed. Even from the sheeple in WallMart.

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  • beantole
    rufe-snow: Thanks for the link to a conceal carry board. I bookmarked it and looked at it some today. Looks interesting. Thanks.
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