A trigger job and other misc work?
Consider me a newbie since I have no mentor when it comes to firearms, so hear are my questions....
I read and hear about people having trigger jobs, rifles beded, actions polished etc etc etc...
How do I know what would help me shoot the gun better? I'm not an expert shooter and don't think I'll ever be one, but it is always more enjoyable when you get more of your shots on the target and although a large percentage of the misses are because of my (lack) of skill, by what I am reading some (ok a small part) may due to the gun.
In a previously posted message on this board, a user commented about the trigger on his Rem. 700 BDL, he seemed to know what he is after. I also have a Rem. 700 but in .30-06, but how do I know if I want a trigger job and what I want to achive, and then what do I get for my $$. What would bedding or floating the rifle realistically do for me? What does it do for anybody, why would somebody consider it?
Ok, next question, I have a Ruger MK II, I know I dislike the sights on it, I can't see them well (maybe I need to see the eye Dr. too), ok, so I know what I don't like about them, but without getting into the religous wars like "I've think so and so sights are the best and the only ones I'll use" what do I look for in picking a good set of sites? Also, is this a gun that I should get the action polished and the trigger worked on? My question remains, what am I hoping and expect to achive by getting this work done? Where is the point of diminishing returns? i.e. taking a gun that costs say $300 and putting $400 worth of work into it doesn't make sense.
Ideas, comments, suggestions, HELP! :-)
I read and hear about people having trigger jobs, rifles beded, actions polished etc etc etc...
How do I know what would help me shoot the gun better? I'm not an expert shooter and don't think I'll ever be one, but it is always more enjoyable when you get more of your shots on the target and although a large percentage of the misses are because of my (lack) of skill, by what I am reading some (ok a small part) may due to the gun.
In a previously posted message on this board, a user commented about the trigger on his Rem. 700 BDL, he seemed to know what he is after. I also have a Rem. 700 but in .30-06, but how do I know if I want a trigger job and what I want to achive, and then what do I get for my $$. What would bedding or floating the rifle realistically do for me? What does it do for anybody, why would somebody consider it?
Ok, next question, I have a Ruger MK II, I know I dislike the sights on it, I can't see them well (maybe I need to see the eye Dr. too), ok, so I know what I don't like about them, but without getting into the religous wars like "I've think so and so sights are the best and the only ones I'll use" what do I look for in picking a good set of sites? Also, is this a gun that I should get the action polished and the trigger worked on? My question remains, what am I hoping and expect to achive by getting this work done? Where is the point of diminishing returns? i.e. taking a gun that costs say $300 and putting $400 worth of work into it doesn't make sense.
Ideas, comments, suggestions, HELP! :-)
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First, I would advise you to find a local range to visit. Hang out, shoot, and make some friends. The single most productive thing you can do to that rifle to improve your accuracy is to shoot it! If you have any doubts as to the accuracy of your rifle, shoot it off of a rest or sandbags, or ask someone at the range to fire it for you. It's likely that it will shoot better than you will, which is my usual standard for any firearm. Bedding the action and floating the barrel can improve accuracy a lot, but if the rifle outshoots you to begin with, you'll never notice the difference.
With that said, a good trigger has to be experienced to be appreciated. A trigger job cleans up any creep, and typically lightens the trigger pull to some degree. If someone will let you shoot a rifle with a good trigger, you'll want to take every gun you own to the shop to be worked over. Again, go to the range and make some friends. You need to try out a few rifles that have had this type of work done to really find out what you like.0 -
Welcome to GB. What you need to do to any firearm depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to hunt deer out to 150 yds, a stock rifle will do that without modification. If you want to shoot a deer at 300+ yards, you need a higher level of accuracy and optical equipment. If you want to shoot a target with it at 600 yds, you need to do an even higher level of modification to be able to do this. I was shooting yesterday with a friend that was shooting a highly modified Remington 700 that was able to shoot 1/4" 5 shot groups at 100 yds. He has about $4000 in it with the modifications and a $1500 scope. It is worth that to him to be able to have that level of accuracy. it is not worth it to me. 0 -
First off , Welcome JR
Don't like the sights ? Try a little 'white out' on the front post, or add two dots on the rear. If you can't get a decent group, hand it to your podnuh and see how he does. If it is still scattering take it to a reputable gunsmith to make sure the gun is OK. If it is, just relax and practice a lot. THEN change the sights if you still want to.
A lot of folks do a lot of things for a lot of reasons.
I am not usually flush with funds to slick up one of my favorite guns, and I am only an above average shooter. That said, I am probably getting most of the performance out of my guns, and I am generally satisfied with that (I do like a crisp trigger though). If I can shoot respectable groups with a piece that I am generally satisfied with, I will spend my next cash windfall on another, different type of piece rather than try to squeeze the groups down 20% on a single piece. That is my point of diminishing returns (scopes being an exception).
Other folks would rather work to have a few excellent 'one holer' guns. Nothing wrong with that, they will shoot the red out of all the targets. Hand that same gun to me, and I may only be able to keep them in the black. So some of the refinements on the gun are lost on me. It is not too hard to shoot near the average expected out of a given gun...but it can be expensive to find out that you cannot shoot any better after tuning a gun up.
Nothing wrong with an average shooter... Most of the best ones are.
If we do not hang together,
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Welcome JR88, As far as being a better shooter goes, practice, practice, practice. I also agree with agman1999 about finding some folks to give you some advise on shooting techniques.
Now as far as triggers go, I suggest getting a dummy round and dry fire while looking through your scope/sights and seing if you get any jump from squeezing your trigger. If so you might benifit from a trigger adjustment. Have fun shooting[:D]
"There are those who make things happen, those that watch things happen and those that say, what happend?"
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I had a trigger job done on my Win. Mod 70. Huge improvement!
Remember, triggers are generally set by the company lawyers.
I am an average shooter using factory loads and the groups went from 3" to 1" and 1/4". Made me very happy. Only spent $20 at the local gunsmith. I am much happier now.0
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