J-locks
What are these J-locks i keep reading about on new Remington rifles??
mike
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It is the lock design that Remington came up with to satisfy the money grubbing sue stupid lawyers. It is also referred to as the "Integrated Security System" or just ISS. It requires a key to turn it on or off. In the animation, the key is the green handled thing that comes in from the left/bottom. The good news it, it can be replaced by an original older style parts and the rifle will still work just fine.
Click on the button marked "safety" and watch the animation.
http://www.remington.com/firearms/3d/700_rifle
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They pretty much suck. There's been some talk that if you just replace the bolt shroud then the trigger still feels heavier than one without ISS. However, as nononsense eluded to, you can replace the entire inner workings with previous (non-ISS) stuff to completely get rid of it. They also employ a similar system integreated into the safeties of thier shotguns too. 0 -
I am confused.
I mean WTH is it for??
Not trying to sound dumb but does this mean you have to use those stupid tools to remove the bolt??
What possible safety reason is this for?
I guess i have owned olders guns for so long i am just not getting it.
Fwiw i bought a model 700 in .270 in the year 2000 that does not use those tools.
So when did they start using this set up??
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It has a semi-unique "key" which nullifies the need for a seperate trigger-lock. The idea is that you lock the "J-lock" and the gun is now locked as if you had installed a trigger lock on the gun.
It was sometime probably right around your 2000 gun that they started, I don't know for sure and it SEEMS like they started them first on thier shotguns.
Of the people I've talked to about the J-lock system, almost all just unlock it and throw away the key. Most agree they'd forget the key at the worst possible time. Every responsible hunter has thier own methods for safe gun handling and storage; we don't need to have one forced upon us by the manufacture. In my mind, this just reinforces the idea to government (for the "safe gun" with the electronic devices etc).
Does that clarify it a bit? Between this and the animation link above you should have a pretty good idea of what it does and how it works. [:)]0 -
Funny thing is that this safety feature isn't CA approved. So you still gotta buy an additional gun lock for rem shotguns with it on them. This is due to the fact that the key is only "semi-unique". lol, looks like they didn't avoid the money grubber sue happy lawyers after all. 0 -
I personally have 2 remingtons(870.700bdl)with this current feature.I just unlock it and leave it and pit the keys in my cabinet.As far as what it does, it locks the bolt shut so a round cannot be chambered.Not worth replacing it, just unlock it and leave it...its fine
Brian
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Now that i have watched the video at the Remington site i understand what this thing is for.
I dont like nor do i need it.
I was talking to a co worker today and i knew he bought a new mod. 700 last year and i asked him about his.
His has it and worse he went to the deer camp with the thing locked and did not bring the tool to unlock it.
However one of his hunting buddies figured out a way to unlock it without the tool.
So they obviously can be disabled without that funny green tool.
Again i am glad i dont have it and i dont think i will be buying a Remington with this feature in the future.
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This feature, along with them dropping many of my favorite calibers, but most of all the horrible customer service that resulted in a 700MLS being unusable for 2 years until I finally fixed it myself (by doing what I suggested they do from the very first time they saw it), is why I have liquidated most of my Remington's. I had over 20 at one time, now I have 3 and would sell my remaining two if I could come out ok. 0
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