Bullets
Got a question about ammo. Where I currently shoot the owner said he found some bullets we shot, and he said they are not mushrooming. Obviously he is concerned with this because we are shooting 7.62x39 which have considerable range. I guess they are penetrating through our barricade of wood. The ammo I am using is from cheaperthandirt.com its the wolf ammo. My question is wolf also makes hollow points do you think this would help them mushroom better? I guess he said they are steel jackets vs brass.
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AP (armor piercing) ammo, which is usually steel with a copper jacket, tends to penetrate better than any other bullet. Copper jacketed lead ammo is not supposed to mushroom or fragment like soft point or hollow point ammo; that's why it is required by the Geneva Convention. Mushrooming, or lack of it, is not your problem.
You need to re-evaluate the design of your shooting range. You should never depend on wood stopping errant shots from endangering neighbors. ALL your shots should impact dirt/sand; if they don't, you risk killing someone. You must correct this situation before you fire again at this shooting range.
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Cameron,
Full metal jacket bullets do not have the expansion of soft points, nor are they as fragible as hollow points.
Many ranges do not permit the use of FMJ ammo.
Using std. soft point or hollow point will give less penetration and should make your range owner a happier person. It just suprises me that the owner hasn't set a policy on ammo type for long guns.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
Ditto re: Neal's comments on your range. Wood, no matter how much, is good for tacking targets to and, for a time, containing sand/dirt. One errant bullet, even it does no more harm than to "land" in someones yard or bounch off a roof, can be enough to shut you down.
Rob
Rob0 -
This is not a backyard we are talking about 2500 acres...lol its a sawmill. So basically your saying use an elevation point and shoot downward. But are there bullets such as the Wolf hollow point rounds designed to mushroom upon contact?
Does anyone have any suggestions on constructing a good backstop, and also how to shoot in this senario, and what to shoot ammo wise? Thanks again.0 -
I don't think Wolf ammo, whether hollow point or soft point, expands with any reliability. In other words, even though a hollow point bullet is shot there is no guarantee that the bullet will expand. They are simply too cheap. This is not to say that you can't hunt with them or they are not good to plink with, they are just not reliable like the Horandys etc.
As far as backstops go, the idea of redundancy is the most important idea here. This means that an overly large backstop is designed(say made from a dirt berm) built higher and wider than would ever be possible to be missed by an errant shot. Then it is built is such a location that if there were no backstop at all, the bullet path would not come into contact with another living sole -ever.
This is truely the most effective design for a backstop.
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