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jocko007
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO POST A PICTURE? PLEASE? Without the picture, my request for info is kind of useless....

OK, I saw this at a garage sale the other day. WTH? I looks to be a palm gun of sorts....? The end screws off and it looks like you insert a single round in it, possibly a .32? Then with the black knob in your palm, you compress it and it would appear to fire at that point. I advised the guy to put it away, and let me find out what I can about it. So how about it? Does anyone have a clue? Is it legal? Should I forget that I saw it? Should I buy it?

Thanks GREATLY in advance!!
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  • jocko007
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  • perry shooter
    hello my take is it is made by Steyr-Daimler-Puch,A.-G., Steyr, Austria they dont list a model 1912 but do have rotary mag. yhe crest with shield and cross sounds like SWISS .Sorry thats all I have now will try to do more research quote:"PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN"
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  • rufe-snow
    It appears the action your describing is from a Model 1903 Greek Army Rifle or Carbine.

    To my knowledge they were the only military rifles that used the Schonauer spool magazine that you describe. Steyr in Austria made them for the Greeks in the years prior to the First World War.

    A bunch of the actions only were imported and sold in the US years ago. I knew a guy who got one and intended to build a sporter out of it.

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  • 1KYDSTR
    Sounds like a Steyr Mannlicher to me. The year on the reciever is likely the year of manufacture and not the model year. Since you state the magazine is a rotary type, that would strongly suggest it is a Mannlicher type as Herr Mannlicher was the origonator of the design. Steyr produced a truely prodigious number of actions and military rifles in that time frame and likely did that one. I would guess that the action/bolt length is a little longer than you suggest as cartridges of that time were going to need to have a little more clearance to be loaded into the mag. Is there a chance you could post a picture? That would help me narrow down the broad list of options as to what exact model you may have.
    EDIT: Just read Rufes' post and will have to defer to him on this one. Got a little mixed up there! The Mannlicher was an En Mass type clip and the Schoenauer was the spool type! Getting sloppy in my old age! Your action IS very likley the Mannlicher Schoenauer Greek rifle in 6.5x54 Mannlicher Schoenauer caliber. The description of the crest totally smacks of the Greek crest as well! My appologies!
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  • Hangfire
    I agree--1903 Mannlicher-Schoenauer.

    Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
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  • jocko007
    This is why I really like this site.
    Man you guys are great! I thank each and everyone of you who took the time to answer and help me with this question.
    I think we have nailed down what I have.
    Again, Thank You All for your time and efforts.
    Cliff

    "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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  • MIKE WISKEY
    I AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POSTERS, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A RIFLE OUT OF THIS ACTION THE CAL. WILL HAVE TO BE 6.5X54MM (OR POSSIBLY .30 REM.) WITH OUT SOME VERY TRICKY REMACHINEING. I ONCE HAD ONE REBUILT IN .308 WIN. BUT THE ACTION WAS MODIFIED, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING FOR THE AVERAGE GUNSMITH.
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