WIN 1876 .50-95 WCF EXPRESS 26" OCTAGONAL BBL
1. WINCHESTER 1876 CENTENNIAL MODEL REPEATING LEVER ACTION RIFLE
2. SER# 53936 DOM 1884 ???
3. 26" octagonal BBL
4. full length tube mag
5. plain leaf spring iron sights
6. special order / custom shop / high grade / deluxe wood
7. .50-95 WINCHESTER EXPRESS chambering
8. pistol grip stock
9. plain semi-flat (non crescent) buttplate
the gun is a strong 50%.........
the sideplates have moderate pitting on the left, minor on the right.
the bore is imaculate, over 90%, no pitting, rust, damage, etc...
the muzzle crown is perfect.
the gun has lost a lot of the finish on the metal parts.
the stock is filthy, but a correct cleaning will resolve that problem.
minor checks and dings, no cracks, repairs, or scratches.
the ebony ??? pistol grip insert is missing.
the firing pin is missing.
it locks up tight, functions well, and is in "time".
the dust cover and other key parts are intact and correct.
it has been neglected...
what is it worth??? is it of intrest to collectors??? how many made in this configuration??? how many in this chambering??? what makes it an EXPRESS rifle??? opinions, questions, comments, concerns, inquiries, etc... desired.
we are going to take down the gun, lightly clean, oil, and stabalize its condition. the customer wants the pin replaced, and wants to send it to DOUG TURNBULL. we will also lightly clean the wood, and the bore...
please help me out here...
i told him it was worth at least $2500.00, most likely much more.
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
2. SER# 53936 DOM 1884 ???
3. 26" octagonal BBL
4. full length tube mag
5. plain leaf spring iron sights
6. special order / custom shop / high grade / deluxe wood
7. .50-95 WINCHESTER EXPRESS chambering
8. pistol grip stock
9. plain semi-flat (non crescent) buttplate
the gun is a strong 50%.........
the sideplates have moderate pitting on the left, minor on the right.
the bore is imaculate, over 90%, no pitting, rust, damage, etc...
the muzzle crown is perfect.
the gun has lost a lot of the finish on the metal parts.
the stock is filthy, but a correct cleaning will resolve that problem.
minor checks and dings, no cracks, repairs, or scratches.
the ebony ??? pistol grip insert is missing.
the firing pin is missing.
it locks up tight, functions well, and is in "time".
the dust cover and other key parts are intact and correct.
it has been neglected...
what is it worth??? is it of intrest to collectors??? how many made in this configuration??? how many in this chambering??? what makes it an EXPRESS rifle??? opinions, questions, comments, concerns, inquiries, etc... desired.
we are going to take down the gun, lightly clean, oil, and stabalize its condition. the customer wants the pin replaced, and wants to send it to DOUG TURNBULL. we will also lightly clean the wood, and the bore...
please help me out here...
i told him it was worth at least $2500.00, most likely much more.
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
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have i stumped the GB experts with this one???
did i offend some folks???
anyone???
best regards, mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.0 -
You certainly haven't offended anyone. Your 76 of course has collector interest.Anything unaltered is of interest.I am at aloss to reply as to value since I'm completley out of touch with current prices .
The term "Express" was Winchesters way of describing an improved and/or more powerful version of an existing round....in this case an improvement on the 50/70 Gov't.
Bert is the most active in current Winchester Rifle values, but he's gone fishing til next weekend.Wish I could be more help!!!
If it was a shotgun, Dave[onlywinchesters] would have taken care of it long ago[8D]
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob0 -
mrmike....not a '76 expert, but I can give you a few opinions. The Express indicates a lighter, shorter bullet, often a hollow point that made more room in the case for more powder. So it went faster and became a flatter shooting, hard hitting bullet at shorter ranges. At longer ranges, the heavier bullets would catch up and overtake the lighter ones because of the interia of the heavier bullet.
Restoration....'76's, and especially the 50-95 Express caliber are in short supply and the demand is great, especially for the 50-95 Express. Anything in 50 caliber seems to bring a high premium. Restoration, whether I do it or done by Doug Turnbull is still a restoration. It will be pretty, but you may spend a whole lot of money to have it restored only to find that it is worth less than when you started. I would definitely get an expert appraisal before taking that drastic step. I personally like the old character marks that signal its history. I suspect your estimate of $2500 is quite low, but you can't take that to the bank.
Hope this helps a little.....
max
P.S. Original reloading tools for the 50-95 Express will bring 5+ the price for say a 45-60 or 40-60 tool. That may be an indicator.
load the old ones with the old tools.....<P>
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i have done some independant research, but i was hoping for some second opinions...
EXPRESS RIFLE... most noticable features include the 26" heavy octagonal BBL. most are encountered with the deluxe grade pistol grip stock. most are shipped with elaborate tang sights.
i figure add 20% for the chambering...
i figure add $750-$950 for the DELUXE wood...
i figure the pistol grip sporting stock ads $500...
i figure the relative rarity and current high collector demand on this piece adds some more value...
my father is going to take the gun apart, lightly clean and oil (to stabalize) the metal, clean the bore, lightly clean the stock, and asertain what parts need to be replaced.
we are going to suuply the owner with a factory letter...
at that point he will decide wich direction he wants to go. he is leaning strongly towards TURNBULL on my recomendation despite the minimum 6 month turn around time, and my minimum estimate of $2500.00 restoration cost.
my feelings are that in its current condition it worth around $4000.00-$5000.00...
i would appreciate some additional expert advice or insight...
best regards mike.
What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.0 -
Mike,
I personally would attempt to talk your customer out of any restoration. You can likely double your Turnbull estimate-
Doug still walks on water. May wish to look at www.winrest.com0
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