American arms shotgun
Can someone tell me what an "American Arms 10ga. o/u Waterfowl" in fine condition is worth?
Mudge the curious
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I have an old American Arms Shotgun labeled, Knikerbocker, I need some parts and some ID help as to value and if it is worth fixing up.
Don
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dcon - could you give a little more information as to the type, ie; side by side, O/U, etc.
I can't find anything in my books (not that that means much) under American Arms by that model.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dcon12
I have an old American Arms Shotgun labeled, Knikerbocker, I need some parts and some ID help as to value and if it is worth fixing up.
Don
You might go over to http://www.armscollectors.com/forum.ht
on the Non-Military House Brand Firearms board. There is an old shotgun expert named Nedfall, he can ID old shotguns and give you an estmate of its value and maybe help with parts.
Dean
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Actually, that's a pretty easy one.
The 'American Gun Co' Knickerbocker is a Crescent model. In fact, the Knickerbocker was Crescent's first inside-hammer shotgun sidelock shotgun and was introduced in 1905. It evolved through various small model changes (and name changes) into the Crescent-Davis (Stevens) years until finally disappearing from catalogs just prior to the US entry into WW-2.
Early Knickerbocker guns have Damascus-type barrels, so a thorough evaluation is in order before attempting to shoot. Parts can easily be found/scavenged from other Crescent sidelock models, or in a pinch can be made by a competent gunsmith.
Some of us more esoteric types actually COLLECT antique Crescent and store-brand shotguns, and an early Knickerbocker in mint condition will easily bring $500 to the right market.
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quote:Originally posted by CountryGunsmith
Actually, that's a pretty easy one.
The 'American Gun Co' Knickerbocker is a Crescent model. In fact, the Knickerbocker was Crescent's first inside-hammer shotgun sidelock shotgun and was introduced in 1905. It evolved through various small model changes (and name changes) into the Crescent-Davis (Stevens) years until finally disappearing from catalogs just prior to the US entry into WW-2.
Early Knickerbocker guns have Damascus-type barrels, so a thorough evaluation is in order before attempting to shoot. Parts can easily be found/scavenged from other Crescent sidelock models, or in a pinch can be made by a competent gunsmith.
Some of us more esoteric types actually COLLECT antique Crescent and store-brand shotguns, and an early Knickerbocker in mint condition will easily bring $500 to the right market.
Scrappy Doo sleeps with the fishes.
Tahnks for the info. It is as you have stated. Was the gun of my daughters boyfriends Uncle. He wants to fix it up for sentimental reasons. Don
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I too have an interest in a shotgun of this description. My 88 year old uncle has one that he wants to get rid of which he inherited from his father.
I am not well informed about shotguns but here is what I know about it. It is a side by side, 12g. (or so I believe) from American Gun Co. -ser. 197375,with Knickerbocker on it. My uncle believes it was built around 1920 because it does not have the double hammers.
From what I have learned the barrel, if Damascus and not fluid steel, would be unsafe to use as a sporting gun. Because of this I would likely not want to buy it from him but would like to help him valuate it so that he gets a fair price for it. How do I determine if it is indeed a Damascus or fluid steel barrel, by age or visual inspection?
How can I be sure of the date of production?
Can any of you help me? Thank you
YOU SHOULD POST YOUR QUESTION IN THE ASK THE EXPERTS FORUM BY ITSELF AND NOT UNDER THE ABOVE LISTED QUESTION......0 -
You say that You have an American Arms Shotgun...!
American Arms Co. Boston, Mass. 1861-1897, Milwaukee, Wisc. 1897-1901. Purchased by Marlin in 1901...Maker of Over/under Handguns, Revolvers, Double Barrel, Side by Side Shotguns....
1. 12 Ga., Semi-Hammerless, Checkered Stock,....In Exc. Cnd..$600.00
2. Whitmore Patent, 10., 2 7/8s, Hammerless, Checkered Stock..in Excellent Condition.....$625.00
3. Whitmore Patent, 12 Ga., Hammerless, Checkered Stock...in
Excellent Condition...$675.00
Keep in Mind that this is the American Arms Shotgun...The Trade Name 'Knickerbocker' was used by Crescent for the H.D. Folsom Hardware Company Shotguns, circa 1900...In Excellent Condition....$250.00....
4.And then comes the The Knickerbocker Made By Stevens Arms....In Excellent Condition are worth $250.00...
5. The American Arms is worth more than the Stevens or the the Crescent Arms....This is a real Can of Worms, but has to be brought out into the Open..Stevens/Savage...Savage/Marlin.....The Marlin Name is associated with American Arms....But is Your gun Predated or Post Dated with the Marlin Takeover...?..There should be some interesting replies....Lets hear it Troops.....
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