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bsally
Don't know much. Was my great grandmother's. My mom has had it for the last 30 years or so. Have not taken the grips off to look for markings underneath. There are no markings visable. Thanks for any help.




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SALLY
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    This Little Gun appears to be a COPY of a Haviland & Gunn Single Shot Pistol...The major differance is that the Little Pistol You show...has a Birdshead Grip and No Triggerguard/Main Spring.....as to where the Haviland-Gunn used the Triggerguard as the Mainspring and the Butt was Squared...
    Its been said, but unprovable to this author...that Remington built some of these Little Pistols under licence for H & G................

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • rufe-snow
    It appears to me to be a "Fourth of July Pistol" rather then a conventional deringer.

    They as a class date to the 1870's, and are made to fire a .22 rimfire blank, rather then a bulleted cartridge. It goes without saying that their is no rifleing in the oversized barrel.

    Flayderman has a number of them in his "Guide", the closest to yours being the " Boss Single Shot Blank Deringer".

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  • bsally
    The "fireing pin" on the hammer is in the middle of it. Is it then still possible to be a rimfire?

    SALLY
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by bsally
    The "fireing pin" on the hammer is in the middle of it. Is it then still possible to be a rimfire?

    SALLY
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    Is there any rifleing visable in the barrel?

    What is the internal diameter of the barrel.

    What is the diameter of the chamber area of the barrel where the cartridge is placed?

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  • bsally
    I think it is .22. The inside of the barrel has some rust, but a .22 bullet seems like it would fit. Don't have any shorts, but a long rifle wont fit into the chamber because the distance between the hammer and chamber is too short. Thanks for the help.

    SALLY
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  • mrmike08075
    it is very similar to CONTINENTAL single shot pistol, and the series made by MERWIN and BRAY. SEDGLEY made a family of flare pistols along these lines as well. i am stumped, and without markings, proofs, hallmarks, etc... i can draw no firm conclusion.
    best regards, mike.

    What other dungeon is so dark as ones own heart, what jailer so inexorable as ones own mind.
    contact me at the shop at waltsgun@aol.com best regards, mike.
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  • b.goforth
    a copy of the 1890 j.p. lovell arms co. catalog (page 49) has a illustration of a pistol identical to this. it is called the 'gem blank cartridge pistol' priced at 50 cents. the catalog says, it is the standard "fourth of july" pistol in the country. not recommended for ball cartridges.

    this pistol was manufactured by johnson & bye gunsmiths the forerunner of iver johnson's arms & cycle works.
    b.goforth
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  • buck25
    Just came across your inquiry from last year and wondered if you had found out any information on the pistol. Also wondered if it was possible to get a picture of the pistol. Thanks,

    Bruce
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