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Marlin 1881 ,40-60 cal reloads????

bjsgear@hotmail.com
HI, GOT MOST STUFF TO RELOAD NEW BRASS, NEED TO KNOW, GOOD, NON BLACK POWDER LOADS FOR MOOSE HUNTING, THANKS IN ADVANCE, BRYAN.

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  • perry shooter
    Hello I don't want to throw cold water on you fine rifle BUT factory load was 260 gr. with a MUZZLE ENGERY of 1115 I think this is somewhat light for moose . Please check reloading manuals and don't take my word for a safe load however two that are in my book are as follow 260 gr. flat nose with 23 gr. of 4198 or same bullet with 35 gr. 3031 both slightly more then factory BLACK POWDER LOAD , good luck
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  • Sunray
    Shut off you caps lock and try these guys. The load the ammo on a special order basis, so it may be worth contacting them.
    http://www.starsandstripesammo.com/obsolete_american_rifle.html
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  • v35
    This is the same cartridge as the 40-65 Winchester and can be formed from 45-70 brass. It was factory loaded with a 260 grain lead bullet at 1385 fps for the Marlin and 1420fps for the Winchester so they were essentially identical. Taking advantage of the stronger Win '86,
    handloaders have boosted the load 220 fps over the Marlin.
    ME for the above 4198 load is 1308 Ft Lbs.
    In a pre WW2 ballistics table the same cartridge was specified for both rifles. That is a 260 grain soft point at 1360 fps with a muzzle energy of 1070 ft lbs.
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  • perry shooter
    Hello V35 both my CARTridges of the world and all my Ideal catalogs state "this appears to be same case as the 40-65 winchester but with a different loading" and further states " must not be confused with the 40-60 winchester as they are not the same" my suggestions is get an old ideal manual and go easy. METaL does funny things after 100 years. I have a S&W No. 3 TARGET in 44 russian I shot over 100 rounds had factory letter shipment of one to factory target shooter it now sits as a reminder I shot it came home cleaned it and when I shut it the complete top strap broke off flush with back end of barrel, needless to say it was a bad day.
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  • WWllVet
    According to Ken Waters' Pet Loads, Supplement #4 to the 3rd edition on page 24.
    .40-65 Winchester and .40-60 Marlin: Form cases from .45-70 brass in a form and trim die ( regular full length sizing die may prove adequate ). Leave brass full length (2.10 inches) and fireform. Size bullets .406 to .408 inch, .001 inch larger than barrel groove diameter. Flatnosed designs only!
    weight........bullet.............charge..........powder
    (grains)...........................(grains)
    ..245.......Lyman 403169........24.0...........IMR-4198
    ..245.......Lyman 403169........34.0...........IMR-3031
    ..245.......Lyman 403169........37.0...........H-4895

    This information is under the heading "Loading for the old ones"

    for GOD and COUNTRY

    Vet
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  • v35
    Perry Shooter- You can see from the data that the Winchester '86 factory load was marginally faster than the Marlins' but by my 1940 Stoeger table, both were slightly downloaded and combined as a single cartridge with only one loading. Subsequently, handloaders have boosted loads over the originals but not by all that much. The '86 I believe is rated stronger than the Marlin 95 hence a little heavier max load in COTW.
    Sorry about your Smith 44. I'll bet close examination of the fracture
    will show progressive failure. Turnbull could probably do a TIG welding and spot refinish to make that gun whole again for light loads. That's a surprising place to let go. The barrel catch & screw are weaker.
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